06-11-13 Workshop Meeting MinutesWORKSHOP MEETING
JUNE 11, 2013
A Workshop Meeting of the City Commission of the City of Delray Beach, Florida, was called to
order by Mayor Cary Glickstein in the Commission Chambers at City Hall at 6:00 p.m., on Tuesday,
June 11, 2013.
Roll call showed:
Present- Commissioner Shelly Petrolia
Commissioner Alson Jacquet
Commissioner Adam Frankel
Commissioner Angeleta E. Gray
Mayor Cary Glickstein
Absent - None
Also present were - Louie Chapman, Jr., City Manager
Brian Shutt, City Attorney
Chevelle D. Nubia, City Clerk
Mayor Glickstein called the Workshop meeting to order and announced that it had been called for
the purpose of considering the following Items.
WORKSHOP MEETING AGENDA
1. Discussion of Noise Ordinance
Commission discussed allowing public comment on this item. It was the consensus of the
Commission that public comment would be allowed on this particular item.
Mrs. Lula Butler, Community Improvement Director, stated staff hosted an input meeting for
residents on May 13, 2013 at the Library and it was well attended. She stated she has had a
number of conversations and emails from those who were not able to be present. Mrs. Butler
stated staff has summarized those comments and they have been provided to the Commission.
The issue is balance: residents would like to have some assurance that they have a quality of life
late in the evenings and the city would like to protect the vibrancy of the downtown as well.
Ms. Janice Rustin, Assistant City Attorney, discussed the noise ordinance in detail, its standards
and the ten (10) noise factors that assist in determining what is considered as unreasonable. She
discussed the Ordinance that was passed in October 2012 and the proposed Ordinance No. 6 -13
that was tabled in February 2013. She highlighted the options for Commission.
Mr. Jacquet asked what legal precedent does the city have as far as limiting the sounds within
certain times of the day and for limiting it within certain areas of town. He asked about the
times and restraints in the proposed ordinance.
Ms. Rustin commented regarding case law and stated the ordinance should be tailored to the
problem the city is facing and is trying to solve. She asked what the goal of the city is and what
does the city want to address regarding noise. Ms. Rustin stated the ordinance would have to be
narrowly tailored to the city's purpose and reasonable in order to be upheld
Mrs. Petrolia, stated the "plainly audible" factor seems subjective and asked if there is a sound
meter that can be used. She discussed the ordinance section that addresses emergency
equipment i.e. generators and asked if there is anything in the ordinance that addresses this for
personal use. Mrs. Petrolia stated there needs to be a middle ground. She suggested 11:00 p.m.
as the time.
Mrs. Gray stated she is in favor of the proposed ordinance and there needs to be a middle
ground. She stated Commission had previously made recommendations regarding the times and
asked if there have been many complaints. Mrs. Gray discussed residential communities and
stated Commission has to be concerned about businesses as well as residents.
Mr. Frankel stated he was in agreement with the ordinance as proposed. He discussed discretion,
the factors and balance; and stated he likes the factors.
Ms. Rustin asked if Commission would like to see the ten factors placed in the ordinance.
Mayor Glickstein stated he looked at several ordinances from other cities and has heard the
statements about decibels and the courts, etc. He asked if they are court tested and about success
and failure. Mayor Glickstein asked for someone from the Police Department to speak regarding
the decibel application or use of a meter.
Police Chief Anthony Strianese spoke regarding decibel meters and stated that is a difficult
application in regards to pinpointing where the sound is coming from when you have
overlapping establishments within fifty (50) or sixty (60) feet less of each other. He stated
regarding going out to a single house party in a residential neighborhood it is very effective.
Mayor Glickstein commented regarding the "reasonable" standard.
Chief Strianese stated it can be applied with training; and spoke regarding public safety.
Mayor Glickstein asked the Chief to explain the enforcement of citations and commented
regarding the 1:00 a.m. time.
Chief Strianese discussed the different times certain establishments stay open throughout the
county.
Mrs. Gray asked about complaints in the last couple of months.
Chief Strianese stated the complaints vary throughout the city.
Mrs. Gray asked what time most of the city's restaurants close. She also asked why code
enforcement is not issuing the citations versus the Police Department. She stated she would like
to see the Police doing something different.
Chief Strianese stated it is a necessary function.
Mr. Frankel asked if the complaints can be traced to a handful of businesses.
At this time, Mayor Glickstein opened up the meeting for public comments.
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Public Comments:
1. Steve Blum — stated that he is finding a trend that when Commission makes
decisions it is based on their age group and asked where the 11:00 p.m. time
came from. He stated that he would like to see the Commission consider
more of the age groups and look for another way to solve this problem.
2. Victor Kirson — thanked the Mayor for opening this item up for discussion
and stated he likes the Ordinance. He urged Commission to stick to the
ordinance the city has at hand.
3. Kevin Rouse — owner of Kevro's Art Bar, spoke regarding tourist season
and tax revenue. He urged Commission to be careful with how they do this
because it will be for the whole year and not just the locals. He stated he
agrees with the Police Chief and feels he has a good plan.
4. Claudia Willis — stated she has received phone calls from her tenants
regarding noise. She stated it is not one size fits all and stated it is very
different downtown on Atlantic Avenue. She feels the meter reading can be
used on Palm Square, in the Historic District or other areas of town; and
stated she would like to have the meter reading and the reasonable factor as
well. Ms. Willis feels that it is too objective. She stated the problem is
outdoor music and feels the city should be more proactive and long sighted
with this: it is a quality of life issue.
5. Alice Finst — stated an approach of each business being respectful might
help and suggested that if each business would turn their music down a little
this would not be an issue.
6. Tom McMurrian — works with Ocean Properties, stated they have the
Marriott, Boston's and the Sand Bar. He stated the Police Department comes
and hears the complaints and then, talks to the restaurants and bars. He
discussed the Sandbar and what changes they have made to their system
regarding volume control. He commented regarding creating a specific
district and stated there will still be the same sound (noise).
Mrs. Gray stated the city needs to be careful with creating districts and she supports the
Ordinance that was proposed in February and asked if they were other restaurant owners in the
audience. Mrs. Gray stated she supports 12:00 midnight as the cutoff time.
Mayor Glickstein asked questions in terms of drafting the ordinance and stated he feels there is a
distinction between the areas west of US 1 and east of Swinton. He mentioned the amount of
single family homes in the Marina District and the beach area that backup to the district. He
stated the ability to enforce this fairly will be in lock step to how well the city prepares the
ordinance in terms of the criteria and the reasonable standards in that area. Mayor Glickstein
stated he supports breaking out a portion of the Central Business District (CBD) but asked Ms.
Rustin if this would work. He stated it should not be one size fits all.
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Mr. Jacquet stated the concerns the Mayor has are the same as his questions he wanted to ask
earlier. He asked what are the issues the city is trying to solve and feels the city should start with
identifying the issues (whereas clauses) and then narrowly tailor the ordinance. Mt. Jacquet
stated it should not be a one size fits all and discussed differences regarding restaurants and bars.
He stated there are maybe two places in the central cote that are causing the issues.
Ms. Rustin stated it will take additional research regarding some other areas and asked
Commission if they want the factors included in the ordinance.
The Commission decided to not include the ten factors in the ordinance and for them to be
administrative in nature.
Mayor Glickstein asked what is it that the city wants downtown -what should it look like? He
referenced Code Section 99.03, reviewed criteria and discussed specific areas where the time of
11:00 p.m. and 12:00 midnight can be applied. He stated to the extent where the plainly audible
standard will be employed he would like to limit it to 12 midnight west of US 1 and east of
Swinton.
Ms. Rustin asked about those residents who abut the Central Business District at Southwest 9h
and Northeast 7th and a and should the Central Business District be limited from not only the
east and west but the north and south. Ms. Rustin stated they will look at the map based on the
objectives for single family residents.
Mr. Jacquet stated this is a good idea and asked what would happen regarding new businesses.
Mayor Glickstein stated given this is a complex issue he suggested that a "look back' date be set
to review how this is working.
Mr. Frankel reiterated that he was in agreement with the ordinance as proposed, in February with
no objections to what has been suggested regarding the Central Business District and he
supports a 1:00 a.m. cutoff time.
Mrs. Gray stated she supports 12:00 midnight but asked how would this effect special events.
Mrs. Petrolia stated she too supports 12:00 midnight and limited areas especially north and south
as well.
Nit. Jacquet stated he has no problem with 1:00 a.m. but can go along with 12:00 midnight. He
discussed fines, etc.
Mr. Frankel asked if anything can be done regarding repeat offenders.
Mayor Glickstein stated there is nothing after the 5t►, violation and stated ultimately as a result
someone should lose their license.
The City Attorney stated they can take a look to see what Miami Beach has done.
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2. Review of Advisory Boards and Commission Liaison Auvointments
Mr. Douglas E. Smith, Assistant City Manager, presented the information regarding advisory
boards i.e. summary chart, absenteeism, purpose and authority for how the boards were
established. He stated the Commission previously reviewed the advisory boards in 2007. Ms.
Nubin presented information regarding the Commission Liaison Assignments.
Mrs. Petrolia commented regarding absenteeism and conflicting schedules. She asked if
Commission can consider the absences when making board appointments.
Mrs. Gray stated she is fine with the Commission Liaison Assignments but Commission needs
to revisit the advisory boards. She stated some of the boards could be changed to task forces.
She spoke regarding certain boards i.e. Financial Review Board, Neighborhood Advisory
Council and the Green Implementation Advancement Board.
Mr. Frankel stated there are some boards with extreme absences and asked about the process for
removal. The City Clerk explained the process. He stated regarding the liaison assignments,
Commissioners cannot always make it to everything. He discussed the Financial Review Board
resignations and asked if they are back on track. Mr. Frankel also mentioned the Green
Implementation Advancement Board.
Mr. Jacquet stated that some boards should be consolidated, eliminated or turned into task
forces. He stated the absences and resignations should be reviewed as well as duplication of
efforts and the amount of staff time involved. Mr. Jacquet stated the Neighborhood Advisory
Council, Code Enforcement Board, Board of Adjustment and Nuisance Abatement Board
should possibly be combined. He stated the Financial Review Board should be utilized on an as
needed basis.
Mayor Glickstein stated the liaison appointments are voluntary and there is no need to keep a
running list regarding those. He asked that staff provide Commission with the meeting times of
the boards and Commission can attend the meetings as they wish. He asked why the Police
Advisory, Nuisance Abatement and Code Enforcement Boards are not combined.
Mr. Jacquet asked why the Kids and Cops Committee does not meet in the summer.
Chief Strianese stated the committee members are representatives from various schools and lay
out plans during the school year. Since they are representatives from the schools, they are off in
the summer.
Mrs. Gray asked the City Manager if he could meet with the Community Redevelopment
Agency Director regarding what they are working on, etc.
Mayor Glickstein adjourned the Workshop Meeting at 8:14 p.m.
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ATTEST:
MAYOR
The undersigned is the City Clerk of the City of Delray Beach, Florida, and the information
provided herein is the Minutes of the Workshop Meeting of the City Commission held on Tuesday,
June 11, 2013, which Minutes were formally approved and adopted by the City Commission on jWy
9, 2013.
City Clerk
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