10-08-13 Workshop MinutesWORKSHOP MEETING
OCTOBER 8, 2013
A Workshop Meeting of the City Commission of the City of Delray Beach, Florida, was called to
order by Mayor Cary Glickstein in the Commission Chambers at City Hall at 6:00 p.m., on Tuesday,
October 8, 2013.
Roll call showed:
Present- Commissioner Shelly Petrolia
Commissioner Alson Jacquet
Commissioner Adam Frankel
Commissioner Angeleta E. Gray
Mayor Cary Glickstein
Absent - None
Also present were - Louie Chapman, Jr., City Manager
Brian Shutt, City Attorney
Kimberly Wynn, Acting City Clerk
Mayor Glickstein called the Workshop meeting to order and announced that it had been called for
the purpose of considering the following Items.
WORKSHOP MEETING AGENDA
1. Beach Property Owners' Association Design Guidelines
Mayor Glickstein stated that this item was requested by the Beach Property Owners' Association
(BPOA) as a way to address technical gaps, inconsistencies and some substantive issues since the
passage of the overlay regulations ten (10) years ago. He explained there was some dialogue
between BPOA and a third party consultant.
Mr. Paul Doling, Director of Planning and Zoning, introduced this item. He indicated there
were two categories: 1) technical items and 2) more subjective design related items. Mr. Darling
gave a brief overview of what would be discussed.
Ms. Sandra Megrue, Planning Project Manager with Urban Design Kilday Studios (UDKS)
explained that they have a number of items that have been identified over the years that have to
be clarified. She gave the Commissioners a handout with a more comprehensive list of items
that they had encountered while doing their technical review, and as questions came in from
architects when they came in for applications.
Mr. Ken Tuma, Principal with Urban Design Kilday Studios (UDKS) discussed some of the
Processes that they had done such as having meetings with the groups and sending out emails to
recruit responses.
Mayor Glickstein asked if there had been a "meeting of the minds" of technical things that had
to be done by staff, property owners and the architects.
Mr. Tuma stated there was a consensus of the atcbitects and staff of the technical items that had
to be addressed. He asked for direction from the Commission to hopefully engage more of the
original working group. Mr. Tuma advised that it is technical and takes a long time to read the -
changes. He explained that from UDKS perspective, it makes sense, but that they want everyone j
who is involved to be a part of this including the architects because they would be the ones
implementing this and they are counting numbers. He wanted to be sure that what he is creating
would not create a new set of problems.
Mr. Andy Katz, President of the Beach Property Owners Association (BPOA), explained that
eight (8) years ago the guidelines went into effect but the process started closer to ten (10) years
ago. He felt it was healthy for any organization to have a look back in the review process to see
how well it had worked, where problems had been encountered and what was learned along the
way. He stated that many attractive projects with considerable variety had been built; however,
there had been a handful that caused concerns. The concerns were in two areas, style and scale
(style was the lesser component because it was subjective and it changed with time). He
explained that going by a more modern style is a natural process that happened house -by- house.
Mr. Katz advised that scale was the more important issue for the BPOA. He briefly discussed his
apprehensions regarding scales as it pertained to consolidated large lots as compared to small
infill lots. He discussed the uniformity of their neighborhood with relation to the various styles,
colors, houses built over a period of sixty (60) years. Mt. Katz advised that the BPOA is looking
for creativity without having a jarring effect and having some harmony. He stated that the
BPOA is looking for a 2 -3 month process.,.to clarify some of the technical points raised by
UDKS, and to produce new guidelines for scale mostly, if not exclusively, for very large lots. He
discussed the need for a mechanism for review and approval mostly subjective but with some
objective element — which is tough to do. He explained the current scoring criteria and which
projects would have to go before a recommendation (advisory) board like Site Plan Review and
Appearance Board (SPRAB). He noted that this would only apply to single - family homes in the
beach area. All projects zoned in the Medium Density Residential (R.NI) area automatically go
before SPRAB.
Mayor Glickstein gave the history of this, which started eleven (11) years ago. He explained that
it took three (3) years to get this to the Ordinance that is in place currently, which involved
extensive community involvement. He stated that the past Commission gave the directive that if
they could get community buy -in then they would support it. Mayor Glickstein advised there
was a lot of construction in the beach area and a lot of it was out of character with the existing
scale, style and many characteristics of the neighborhood. He stated this was the second attempt
to bring in mansionization; the first attempt failed because it started out as a beach area and
morphed into a city --wide direction, which was too broad. When it came back the second time, it
was confined to the beach area. Over three (3) years and a lot of community involvement, the
current plan was produced. Mayor Glickstein stated that the current plan was intended as not
only a starting place but a template for other neighborhoods like Lake Ida to use when they went
through their process. Mayor Glickstein continued to discuss the background of this project. He
asked the BPOA what they're doing to get the community buy -in on whatever it is that UDKS
wants to do.
Mr. Katz advised that short of the charette process is their annual meeting on December 12t
Typically the turnout is 60 or 70 people out of a membership of 500. He stated it is just the
nature of whether its elections or people coming to the Commission Meeting. He anticipated a
wide array of opinions — which they will use to see if a charette is needed.
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Mayor Glickstein discussed the process that was used by the board in the past to get a good
turnout to the annual meeting including stuffing envelopes in mailboxes. He talked about the
negative feedback initially received and how over a three (3) year period, they engendered a lot
of support that consequently led the Commission to approve an ordinance. He explained why he
requested that this be placed on the workshop agenda.
Mr. Tuma advised that the "clean-up" items did not require a large elaborate process because
they were things that were poorly worded or overlooked the first time around. He recommended
that they identify 1 -3 substantial changes as compared to clean up items. The meeting on
December 12d' would be a great place to have this presented.
Mayor Glickstein stated that a focused chatette is the only way that realtors, architects, design
professionals and homeowners can weigh in and understand the substantive changes. He
suggested the fast -track of technical items be for staff. He explained this was no different from
the ordinances in which Planning & Zoning had found inconsistencies and gaps. Mayor
Glickstein said this can come before the Commission with staffs endorsement. He suggested
that the BPOA come back with an action plan.
It was the consensus of the Commission to have the Beach Property Owners' Association come
back at a later date to discuss an action plan.
Discussion ensued with the Commission
Mrs. Petrolia stated there was a tremendous amount of support for the project about ten (10)
years ago.
Mrs. Gray asked if the mansionization includes multi - family or just single family homes.
Mayor Glickstein answered that it included just single - family homes in two (2) districts. He
discussed the engineering review requirement for plans and how this is an extra level and
expense when the project is still at a level of uncertainty. He asked if BPOA would be ready in
December. He stated nothing would be done on the subjective part of this until they were ready.
Mr. Katz explained that he would like to dry -run this as to how many members would show up
on December 12s`.
Mayor Glickstein requested that Commission be invited to the meetings.
Mr. Katz stated that Commission was invited; Commissioner Petrolia would be the speaker at
the event.
2. Discussion regarding waivers to the Code of Ordinances for Special Events
Mr. Brian Shutt, City Attorney presented this item. He stated that the City Commission adopted
a Special Events Policy. He stated that sometimes waivers are requested in addition to special
event permits that may require advertisement. Mr. Shutt requested a modification to the
ordinance to allow the City Manager to approve certain special events and their waivers provided
that they meet the requirements of the policy. He also added that based on comments from the
Commission at the last meeting, fees for public schools' special events would be waived up to
$1,500.00.
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Ms. Terrill Pyburn, Assistant City Attorney, discussed a First Amendment case that involved use
of Old School Square Park when they suggested that the Special Events Policy was not clear and
that it did not tie in with our Code of Ordinances. She suggested that a provision be added to
the Code of Ordinances that referenced the Special Event Policy in that if you reach the
threshold of 25 or more people then you would be required to get a special event permit. She
cited the case studies that influenced her recommendation.
Mr. Jacquet expressed his concerns that the Commission would lose some power in the decision
of who would get the Special Event Permits. He discussed recourse for the applicant if their
permit was denied.
It was the consensus of the Commission that staff moves forward with a proposed ordinance at
the next Regular Meeting.
3. Discussion of Commission Votes
Mr. Shutt discussed this item. He gave a brief history of the 2 -2 vote, and how and why it arose
based on a circuit court decision that was handed down in 2004 pertaining to the McKinney
request for a Certificate of Appropriateness.
Mr. Frankel stated he wanted to have consistency with the rules. He questioned if there is a 2 -1
vote would the motion fail.
Mr. Shutt confirmed that the motion would fail. Three (3) votes are required in order for any
action to place.
Mr. Frankel questioned if under Robert's Rules would a 2 -1 vote pass.
Mr. Shutt explained that under Robert's Rules a 2 -1 vote would pass because it would be based
on a majority. He explained Robert's Rules and discussed the Charter Review Committee's
recommendation.
Mr. Jacquet asked if the wording in the City Charter should be changed to concurring instead of
in the affirmative so that a decision could be made in the affirmative or negative. If a motion is
made in the negative or affirmative with three (3) votes — it passes. He clarified the
circumstances when Robert's Rules would be used. Mr. Jacquet stated that he thought that a 2 -2
vote would fail.
Mrs. Petrolia talked about the absence of a formal rule if there was a 2 -2 vote. She explained that
it was automatically assumed to fail. She questioned the difficulty to add a rule in the absence of
three (3) affirmative or concurring votes. Mrs. Petrolia requested a Chatter revision to clarify the
ambiguous language.
Discussion ensued among Mr. Shutt and the Commissioners on what the Charter actually read
versus what is interpreted.
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Mrs. Gray asked if three (3) votes ruled what would happen if Commission decided that they did
not want to vote or if they were absent which resulted in a 2 -2 vote, would the motion fail or
would it come back.
Mr. Jacquet advised that Commission had to vote on an item, they could not choose when they
wanted to vote.
Mr. Shutt advised there would be no action.
Mayor Glickstein stated that the item would be re- introduced as if nothing happened and
continue to do so until there were three votes.
Mrs. Gray asked for clarification regarding the 2--2 vote and when a motion would actually fail.
She discussed Mr. Shutt's responsibility to interpret the Charter.
Mr. Shutt advised that his interpretation is based on the Court's interpretation.
Ms. Pyburn cited several court cases that involved language on the 2 -2 vote. She stated that if
the City wanted to make changes, it would require a change to the Charter. Ms. Pyburn advised
language that referenced a tie vote should be changed in the Charter rather than rely on Robert's
Rules.
Mr. Jacquet asked how the Court interpreted the first sentence of the Charter, Section 3.12 (C),
"Voting ", if the Charter is the Constitution of the City and Commission must abide by the
Constitution unless it expressly delegated that authority to somewhere else or it does not address
it. He asked if the Local Rules would govern over the Constitution when voting.
Discussion ensued among the Commission regarding the ambiguity of the Charter in reference
to voting procedure.
Mrs. Petrolia stated that there are two (2) separate issues. The first issue is that the Chatter
governed; the second issue is with Board Appointments (which is clearly spelled out).
Ms. Pyburn provided copies to the Commission of other cases with similar issues and discussed
them.
Mayor Dickstein stated that the larger issue is not with the board appointments but with items
with "No Action ". He discussed how problematic the no action votes were and that there was
an issue with clarity on something that was an- everyday situation for the Commission. Mr.
Glickstein expressed his concerns that the recent referendum to the Chatter addressed the
affirmative and non - affirmative votes.
Mr. Shutt recommended that the language be removed from the Charter.
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It was the consensus of the Commission that an ordinance be drafted to remove Section 3.12
(C) and that this is a referendum on the March 2014 ballot.
4. Discussion regarding Advisory Board Appointments
Ms. Kimberly Wynn, Acting City Clerk presented this item. She stated that staff proposed a
change to the process for advisory board appointments. Ms. Wynn proposed board
appointments be placed on a Special /Workshop Meeting during the months of July and August,
for the exception of the Code Enforcement Board which would be placed on the
Special /Workshop Meeting agenda in January due to the terms on that board. She advised that a
stricter deadline was being proposed to stop late application submittals.
Mr. Jacquet asked why staff is suggesting board appointments twice a year.
Ms. Wynn answered that this was in response to requests by the Commission to have their
Regular Meeting agendas shortened and to limit the number of times staff would have to appear
before the Commission.
Mr. Jacquet responded that the appointment portion of the agenda was short and quick; he did
not see the need for an extra meeting to do the appointments. He agreed with an enforced
deadline to ensure that the City Clerk's Office has time to check whatever is necessary.
Ms. Wynn responded that although the appointments were done quickly, over half of them are
deferred to the next meeting. If all of the appointments are placed on a workshop, Commission
would have time to review just board appointments. It would not be an extra meeting. It would
be a regularly scheduled workshop meeting.
Mrs. Petrolia discussed the need to keep the personal phone calls in addition to posting it on the
website. She recommended a requirement that applicants attended a meeting for the boards)
they applied for to understand how that board operated. Mrs. Petrolia agreed with the 10 -day
deadline.
Mrs. Gray agreed that personal phone calls should not be eliminated. She talked about how she
took the opportunity to diversify the boards when she was appointed. Mrs. Gray asked how
should a Commissioner that was just appointed handle not being able to make an appointment
to an advisory board until July and August. She inquired how vacancies would be filled.
Ms. Wynn advised that regular member vacancies would be filled with the alternate members
from the board. In the event that there were no alternate members on the board, which we had
10 -11 advisory boards like this, if there was a quorum, the appointment would wait until July or
August. If there was no quorum, there would be a Special Meeting to make the appointment.
Mrs. Gray expressed her concern with an alternate member automatically being moved to a
regular member. She liked the current process; she did not agree with a 10 -day deadline with all
of the new residents in the town, the applicant should be able to submit their application.
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Ms. Wynn stated that it was encouraged to bring in new applicants but it was not encouraged to
have applications submitted the day before or the day of the meeting. Ms. Wynn advised that in
the past applicants had come in on the day of the meeting and staff would like to discourage
that.
Mr. Frankel stated that he had no problem with the 10 -day rule. He concurred with
Commissioner Gray that an alternate should not automatically be moved to a regular member.
He asked if there were two (2) alternate members how would a regular member be selected. Mr.
Frankel advised that limiting appointments to two (2) meetings would be a mistake.
Mayor Glickstein stated that he supported the ten (10) day rule. He is neutral regarding having
all of the appointments on two (2) meetings or having them throughout the year. Mayor
Glickstein advised that the criteria and credentials should be consistent on the website for the
boards.
Mr. Frankel recommended that board applications for appointments be given to the
Commission at least twenty -one (21) days in advance minimum.
Mr. Jacquet stated the new process would make it easier for staff not necessarily for the
Commission.
Ms. Wynn advised that was incorrect, it is the same amount of work. The phone calls had been
made so it is just a matter of moving the item from one meeting to the next. However, it
extended the agenda because you had new board appointments in addition to the deferred board
appointments. Ms. Wynn stated it did not make less work either way; it was preferred to be
handled on workshop agendas instead of regular meetings.
Discussion ensued among the Commission regarding the deadlines and recruitment of new
board members. Commission discussed consistency with the criteria.
It was the consensus of the Commission that the advisory board appointments remained on the
Regular Agenda, personal phone calls to potential applicants be continued and that the website
be updated to be consistent with the qualifications needed for each board.
Mayor Glickstein adjourned the Workshop Meeting at 7:43 p.m.
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October 8, 2013, which Minutes were formally approved and adopted by the City Commission on
November 5, 2013.
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October 8, 2013
Attorney Shutt
1. Waste Management "Pass Through" 2012 legal definition/opinion now costing Taxpayers legal fees to correct and
monthly loss due to not bidding contract (est. $125K month)
2. Months to produce a list of contracts with 30 day out clauses. (Official Request was made during Beach Services
RFP by Commissioner Frankel April 9th, numerous requests were made in the interim, months later a list is
produced)
3. CRA Board Appointment: Roberts Rules of Order controversy caused this commission to screech to a halt
on Commissioner Frankel's CRA appointment adding to confusion and weeks to get an appointment made to
that board.
4. Beach Services RFP: Took over 4 months to get a simple RFP out on the Beach Service Contract
(Original Request: April 9,2013, Date Out: August 18, 2013)
5. Specific Language Requested yet omitted in the Beach RFP (Letter dated May 15, 2013) pertinent to an outside
bidder.
6. Tim Boucher wrongfully denied the opportunity to speak at a public commission meeting on September 3,2013.
7. Instructions given personally not to attend a public hearing /screening on Sept. 23 w/o reference to rule orlaw
prohibiting or barring commission attendance. Confusion surrounding Commission Rules and Procedure as it
relates to the 01 -13 Charter change on votes,
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Comments from Commissioner Petrolia from the October 8, 2013 workshop Meeting