04-18-2017 City Commssion Workshop Minutes FINALTuesday, April 18, 2017
4:00 PM
City of Delray Beach
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City Commission
Minutes - Final
Workshop Meeting at 4:00 PM
April 18, 2017City Commission Minutes - Final
Pursuant to Section 3.12 of the Charter of the City of Delray Beach the Mayor has instructed me to
announce a Workshop Meeting of the City Commission to be held for the following purposes:
A Workshop Meeting of the City Commission of the City of Delray Beach,
Florida, was called to order by Mayor Cary Glickstein in the Commission
Chambers at City Hall at 4:00 p.m., Tuesday, April 18, 2017.
Roll call:
Present:
Vice Mayor James Chard
Commissioner Mitchell Katz
Deputy Vice Mayor Shirley Ervin Johnson
Mayor Cary Glickstein
Absent:
Commissioner Shelly Petrolia
Also present were:
Neal de Jesus, Interim City Manager
R. Max Lohman, City Attorney
Kimberly Wynn, Acting City Clerk
Mayor Glickstein introduced Aiden Smith a young man who had shadowed
him for a few hours of the day. Mayor Glickstein said that Aiden had
chosen a good meeting to attend because there would be discussion
about two separate topics where everyone could come together to find
solutions for these problems.
Mayor Glickstein said that public comment was not traditionally permitted
during workshop sessions. There was City Commission consensus to
permit public comments at this workshop.
Item 1 Caring Kitchen Discussion:
Reverend Juanita Bryant Goode said that clients of the Caring Kitchen
were served in terms of both food and related needs such as clothing She
stated that some clients took meals to their neighbors or homebound
individuals. Reverend Goode said that most clients either walked or rode
a bicycle to reach the Caring Kitchen. Ms. Ruth Magerian from CROS
Ministries said that the Caring Kitchen would want a facility with a minimum
of 3,500 to 4,000 square feet. She also requested that the facility contain
storage lockers for volunteers, at least bike racks for 20 bicycles and 30
parking spaces for vehicles. Ms. Magerian said she hoped that the Caring
Kitchen would receive direction from the City Commission before initiating
any type of move to a new facility.
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Dr. Wright, a retired teacher, 815 NW 2nd Street, said she believed in
helping people with meals and other needs. Dr. Wright said the Caring
Kitchen was not a safe location for children nor for herself. Dr. Wright
requested the relocation of the Caring Kitchen to another location.
Ms. Pauline Moody said that she was temporarily homeless. Ms. Moody
said that she was threatended with a knife by a sex offender. She also
said that Caring Kitchen and related staff were constantly making excuses.
Reggie Cox, 715 NW 2nd Street, said he would be very respectful about
this matter. He said that everyone knew about the negative impact of the
Caring Kitchen on the community. Mr. Cox said that the facility had run its
course at its present location. He said they did not want anyone to get hurt
in association with the present location of the Caring Kitchen.
Earnestine Holiday said she had complaints about people walking to the
Caring Kitchen. She stated that neighborhood residents had to clean up
beer and liquor bottles.
Pamela Williams, President of the Paradise Heights Neighborhood
Association, said that getting to homes in her neighborhood was
oftentimes a "mission", involving having objects thrown at their vehicles.
Ezra Krieg, a member of the City's Homeless Advisory Board, said it was
great for Delray Beach to have a resource like the Caring Kitchen.
Mr. deJesus said that the current lease had recently expired. Mr. deJesus
said there were two options: Enter into a (1) hold harmless agreement or a
(2) specific term lease.
Deputy Vice Mayor Johnson said that she happened to reside in the
Paradise Heights community. She said that her community was a
beautiful place, but it was time to find a new location for the Caring Kitchen.
She said that the Caring Kitchen was a beautful place but brought along
with it trash, traffic, and ill behavior of some people who came to the facility.
Vice Mayor Johnson said that there was very likely an alternate location in
Delray Beach to accommodate the needs of the Caring Kitchen.
Vice Mayor Chard said there was a lot of logistics and other
considerations. He said that the great majority of people frequenting the
Caring Kitchen were residents of this area. Vice Mayor Chard said there
was some arguments about providing additional code enforcement or
better security to provide a buffer with the neighborhood. Vice Mayor
Chard said there were a number of parcels with room for parking spaces
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and trucks north of the intersection of Congress and West Atlantic. On the
east side of I-95 near Atlantic and 12th, north of the gateway signs.
Commissioner Katz said that the previous effort to find an alternative
location for the Caring Kitchen had yielded only The Depot location. He
inquired whether the Homeless Task Force had identified other potential
locations. Mr. Tim Palloson, Chairman of the Task Force said that The
Depot was the only option presented to the Task Force. Commissioner
Katz said he agreed with a lot of the residents concerns about safety
related matters. He suggested the possibility of using City owned property
off NW 10th and Auburn. Commissioner Katz suggested the possibility of
buying a property.
Deputy Vice Mayor Johnson inquired whether anyone had contacted the
County about the use of their facilities on Congress Avenue.
Mayor Glickstein inquired whether there was consensus to give the City
Attorney direction to draft a hold harmless agreement or a specfic term
lease. There was City Commission consensus to proceed in this manner.
Mayor Glickstein said there was a universal consensus that this
neighborhood had been put through enough in hosting the Caring Kitchen.
He stated that the Depot would be a terrible location for relocation of the
Caring Kitchen. Mayor Glickstein said he thought The Depot was a
terrible location and he did not like the idea of being in the business of
constructing a building for a non-profit. He stated that the City
Commission wanted more options perhaps placing the onus on the buyer
of The Depot site. Mayor Glickstein said he did not want The Depot to be
the first thing they would see when someone came into the City.
Commissioner Katz suggested putting into an RFP a requirement to find a
parcel of land to serve as a future location of the Caring Kitchen. Vice
Mayor Chard said he thought possibly developing a public private
partnership was a really good idea to develop public and business
purposes. He also said there might be some challenges about working
with the County about the use of their facilities. Interim City Manager
deJesus said he did know the main reason to suggest The Depot was
because it was a City-owned property. He noted that there were presently
no funds to relocate the Caring Kitchen. He said that if the CIty was not
careful, it could be another year before a new location was available to the
Caring Kitchen. Vice Mayor Chard suggested working with the Florida
Department of Transportation for access across the tracks at either NW 1st
Street or NW 2nd Street.
Deputy Vice Mayor Johnson said she thought that it would be very difficult
to get developers interested in a property with ties attached such as the
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ones presently stipulated with The Depot. Mayor Glickstein said that he
would not want to make this a single prong effort. He said that there were
three pieces to this, the county ask, the request for proposals and there is a
capable homeless task force which can make other recommendations to
the City Commission. He asked the City Commission whether it was
possible to move forward with a three-prong approach. There was
agreement to proceed in this manner. Vice Mayor Chard suggesting
adding a fourth leg of working with the State (FDOT). There was also
agreement to add this prong. Mayor Glickstein said he wanted to assure
the residents of Paradise Heights Neighborhood residents that enough
was enough. He said the taxpayers of this neighborhood had suffered on a
lot of levels for a long time. He also stated that the City Commission said
that they heard the residents of the neighborhood clearly.
Interim City Manager deJesus said the common theme appeared to be
moving forward as expediently as possible. He requested the City
Commission's authorization to lead this effort throughout the process. The
City Commission gave Interim City Manager deJesus full leadership on this
issue. City Manager deJesus said that staff would move forward with a
month to month lease at the present location of the Caring Kitchen.
Item 2 Pedicabs:
Patrick Halliday, President of the Delray Beach Bicycle Club, said he spent
countless hours in coordinating bicycle-related activities. Mr. Halliday said
that bicycle safety was foremost on his agenda. He said that there was
now technology to help us to be safer. Mr. Halliday said that a bicycle
allowed to be on any City street. He said that addressing sustainable
mobility in Delray Beach away from a car-centric community to green
modes of transportation was a difficult one. Mr. Halliday said the Delray
Beach Bicycle Club had received numerous occupational licenses to be a
great business owner with safety on our minds.
John Morgan, Assistant Director of the Environmental Services
Department, said the Police or Fire Department or Environmental Services
Department did not support the pedicab because they would take an
additional lane of traffic. Police Chief Goldman said Patrick has
unbelievable passion but the pedicabs would slow down traffic even more
than the present. He said there was no room for this additional mode of
transportation.
Vice Mayor Chard said he disagreed with Police Chief Goldman on this
matter. He said that pedicabs were working very successfully in a number
of cities throughout Florida and around the nation. Vice Mayor Chard said
that restaurants and hotels in Austin were in favor of using pedicabs. He
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stated that driving pedicabs was an entry level job for young people in the
community. Vice Mayor Chard said that the alleys downtown were a good
means for transportation with some better lighting. He suggested
permitting pedicabs for a six or twelve month trial period. Deputy Vice
Mayor Johnson said that the pedicabs were environmentally friendly and
would eliminate the need for a car for visitors. Deputy Vice Mayor Johnson
said she would prefer having five pedicabs to one trolley. Commissioner
Katz said he knew that Mr. Halliday would run a great pedicab business.
Commissioner Katz inquired about limiting pedicab services to one firm.
Mayor Glickstein said there would have to be a franchise agreement. He
also said that he was willing to try the pedicab over a three-month period to
get feedback from Police and Fire personnel. Commissioner Katz
suggested working with the DDA Ambassadors to help with the evaluation
of the pedicabs on a trial basis.
Mayor Glickstein said he was really disappointed that the Chamber of
Commerce and the Downtown Development Authority did not have
representatives in attendance this evening. Mayor Glickstein commented
that Mr. Halliday was a very passionate advocate for bicycling. Mayor
Glickstein stated that he did not support the proposed pedicab program.
He noted that large scale projects off Atlantic Avenue, with three or more
development projects are planned for the downtown area. Mayor
Glickstein stated that pedicabs were interesting, but Fort Lauderdale had
to separate the pedicabs to accommodate them along a separate
pathway. Mayor Glickstein said he would not be supporting the
implementation of pedicabs at this time.
Interim City Manager deJesus said this was not about Patrick and
pedicabs. Interim CIty Manager de Jesus also stated that he and his
family personally used the pedicab in Fort Lauderdale, but would not utilize
one in Delray Beach due to the potential for harm caused by very limited
space on West Atlantic Boulevard and other roadways. He noted that City
staff had a great deal of concern about preserving the health, safety and
welfare of residents along Atlantic Boulevard and the balance of the
downtown area. Interim City Manager de Jesus stated that staff would
carry out the will of the City Commission.
Police Chief Goldman said he thought that the pedicabs would cause more
difficulties in the downtown area. Mayor Glickstein stated that this was not
a franchise discussion. Mr. Halliday said that in 1998 there were a great
many pedicab drivers who did not follow the rules of the road. Mr. Halliday
said he was "over the top" in terms of bicycle safety and clean background
checks and to pass his test. He said the only way to know whether the
footprint would work today was to have a trial period for pedicabs. Mr.
Halliday urged the Commission to have a trial period for pedicabs.
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Commissioner Katz asked whether the app kept information about where
drop-offs and pick-ups occurred. Mr. Halliday said that he would be
pleased to share this information with the City. Mr. Halliday said that he
was only asking for a trial program for pedicabs in the downtown area.
Commissioner Katz said he would like to have a pedicab trial program on
a very short leash. Vice Mayor Chard said that more cars were added to
the downtown area every year. He said that there should be an alternative
means of transportation to pedicabs. Police Chief Goldman said that he
was very concerned about the City's liability in handling calls in the very
busy and high traffic downtown area. Chieef Goldman said he agreed with
Interim City Manager deJesus about developing a proper footprint for
handling a pedicab trial period in the future. Vice Mayor Chard asked
whether he rather have a drunk driver in a pedicab or a car. Police Chief
Goldman said that the City's Public Safety professionals were simply
saying that the City was not ready for a pedicab program.
Commissioner Katz said that Uber and Lyft were positive choices for
people not to drive while drunk. Interim City Manager deJesus said that
staff's position was clear and he thoroughly backed their
recommendations. He also noted that this was a policy decision and if it
were the will of the City Commission, staff would move forward with a pilot
program for pedicabs. Mayor Glickstein said that this was not a proxy on
Mr. Halliday and his ability to do aspirational things. John Morgan,
Assistant Director of Environmental Services, said that pedicabs were not
regulated by the County because they were considered bicycles. He also
noted that they would need to amend the local business tax schedule and
land development regulations. Mr. Morgan also detailed a significant list of
items which would need to be created or amended in order to move ahead
with a pedicab program. Commissioner Katz said it would be possible to
limit the number of decals and revisit the ordinance three or six months
from now to have it evaluated. Mayor Glickstein inquired who would pay
for the list of items referenced by Mr. Morgan. Deputy Vice Mayor Johnson
said she would not be in favor of signage. Mayor Glickstein inquired how
rules for pedicabs could be codified. He noted that City staff was looking
for direction from the City Commission. He also said that he did not like
having a pedicab program in Delray Beach due to the lack of capacity and
would pay a price for it.
Vice Mayor Chard said he was impacted by the unanimity of staff who
ultimately have to carry this out. Vice Mayor Chard said no to the potential
pedicab program.
Deputy Vice Mayor Johnson said she was not aware of the safety issues
and also would concur with staff's recommendation and would say no to the
potential pedicab program.
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Commissioner Katz said that he would like to see this matter come back
before the Commission at some point in the future.
WS.1.17-383 CARING KITCHEN DISCUSSION
Recommendation:Staff is seeking City Commission direction on the desired location for The
Caring Kitchen operations.
Sponsors:City Manager Department
WS.2.17-379 PROPOSED PEDICAB SERVICE
Recommendation:Staff is seeking City Commission direction on allowing a Pedicab Service
as a permitted business; and need for rules and regulations to govern
operations in the City of Delray Beach.
Sponsors:Environmental Services Department
Pedicab Policy Paper Update - April 2017.docxAttachments:
WS.3. Commission Comments
Commissioner Katz talked about the pedicab application being similar to
Uber. He advised that he advocated for the pedicabs. He discussed the
advantages of pedicabs.
Commissioner Katz talked about his reasons for agreeing with this
program on a trial basis. He would like to see the program placed on a
short lease and try it.
There being no further business, the workshop meeting stood adjourned at
5:56 p.m.
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