HPB 01-19-1990 AGENDA
HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD
FRIDAY JANUARY 19, 1990, 8:00 A.M.
COMMISSION CHAMBERS, CITY HALL
1. Roll Call
2. COA 8-095 Vivian Van Dorn, 18 Lake Court. Front Fence,
presented by Mrs. Van Dorn or Cecil Jamison, Jr. , Authorized
Agent
3. COA 8-072 Continuation. St. Paul' s Episcopal Church, 188 S.
Swinton Avenue. Gates for S.W. 1st Avenue parking lot.
Presented by Armand Mouw, Authorized Agent.
4. COA 8-010 Continuation. Cason Cottage Sign. Presented by
JoAnn Peart, or Mark Little, Bright Image Signs, Authorized
Agent.
11 5. COA 8-096 First Church of Christ Scientist, 146 S.E. 7th
Avenue. Demolition of non-contributing building, parking
areas, new construction of attached Sunday School. Presented
by Charles E. Toth, Architect or Charles Williams, Trieste
Construction.
6. COA 8-015 Continuation. Old School Square Landscaping.
Marylou Strollo.
7. Transfer of Development Rights, a Preservation Concept
8 . Preservation Awards Resolution
9. Reimbursement of HPB Members for Preservation Conference
10 . Progress report on Five Historic Sites Marker
11. Unfinished Business
12 . New Business
13 . Adjournment
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MEMORANDUM
Date: January 16 , 1990
To: Historic Preservation Board
From: Pat Cayce
Subject: HPB meeting, Friday January 19 , 1990
2 . COA 8-095 Vivian Van Dorn, 18 Lake Ct. Mrs. Van Dorn
erected a split rail fence on the front of her property.
Unfortunately, she did so without a building permit and without a
COA. She has built the fence in the City right of way. On
December 28 , 1989 she received a code violation notice and was
instructed to remove the fence by January 8 , 1990 . She has since
applied for a building permit and COA. I have spoken to Gates
Castle about the right of way and he has sent an inspector out to
see it. I have not yet heard from him but I believe Engineering
will relax the right of way requirements because the fence is not
a traffic hazard.
Sandy Jammison will probably speak for Mrs. Van Dorn as she has
appointed him her agent.
3 . St Paul ' s will come before you for approval of the parking
lot gates on S.W. 1st Avenue. Mr. Mouw will bring sketches of the
gates to the meeting. He has some concern that his Board will
not approve an alternative to chain link because of the
additional cost involved.
The HPB should consider the fact that the gates will be closed
most of the time and therefore will present a 24 foot expanse of
chain link to the streetscape, which will not be screened by a
hedge. It is recommended that a more appropriate gate be used.
4 . Cason Cottage will replace the existing sign on N.E. 1st St
and the alley with the attached sign. The sign is not lighted
and is free standing. It will encroach on the setback but this
has been resolved by a "Removal Agreement" in the event that the
street is widened.
5 . Old School Square will present a landscape plan.
6 . This is a discussion item.
7 . When the HPB discussed this at an earlier meeting Stan Weedon
suggested that the Board may wish to eliminate some of the
categories in Section 4 . Please present your comments and
suggestions at the meeting.
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8. We have a $1 ,500 for travel and training in our budget.
Should Member' s This Old Town Conference fees be paid from the
budget?
MINUTES
HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD
FRIDAY JANUARY 19 , 1990, 8 : 00 A.M.
COMMISSION CHAMBERS, CITY HALL
1 . Roll Call
Chairman Patricia Healy : Present
Diane DeMarco : Absent
Alice Finst : Present
David Martin : Absent
David Nathanson : Present
Rose Sloan : Absent
Spencer Pompey : Present
Staff Present: Pat Cayce, Historic Preservation Planner
Stan Weedon, Assistant Planning Director
2 . COA 8-095 Vivian Van Dorn, 18 Lake Court. Front Fence,
presented by Mrs . Van Dorn or Cecil Jamison, Jr. , Authorized
Agent
MOTION: To approve as submitted.
Made: David Nathanson
Seconded: Spencer Pompey
VOTE:
Healy : Y Finst : N
Nathanson : Y Pompey : Y
MOTION: APPROVED
COMMENTS: Alice Finst thought that the fence should be
moved back to provide continuity.
3 . COA 8-072 Continuation. St. Paul' s Episcopal Church, 188 S.
Swinton Avenue. Gates for S.W. 1st Avenue parking lot.
Presented by Armand Mouw, Authorized Agent.
MOTION: To approve the gates as shown on the submitted
specification sheet.
Made: Alice Finst
Seconded: Spencer Pompey
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VOTE:
Healy : Y Finst : Y
Nathanson : Y Pompey : Y
MOTION: APPROVED
COMMENTS: Alternative gate treatment presented by Mr. Mouw.
The Church has authorized the expenditure of an additional
$2 ,000 for this work. The color of the gate will be black.
4. COA 8-010 Continuation. Cason Cottage Sign. Presented by
JoAnn Peart, or Mark Little, Bright Image Signs, Authorized
Agent.
MOTION: To approve as submitted.
Made: Alice Finst
Seconded: David Nathanson
VOTE:
Healy : Y Finst : Y
Nathanson : Y Pompey : Y
MOTION: APPROVED
COMMENTS:
5 . COA 8-096 First Church of Christ Scientist, 146 S.E. 7th
Avenue. Demolition of non-contributing building, parking
areas, new construction of attached Sunday School.
Presented by Charles E. Toth, Architect or Charles Williams,
Trieste Construction.
MOTION: To approve the demolition as submitted.
Made: David Nathanson
Seconded: Spencer Pompey
VOTE:
Healy : Y Finst : Y
Nathanson : Y Pompey : Y
MOTION: APPROVED
MOTION: To approve the new construction as submitted.
Made: David Nathanson
Seconded: Spencer Pompey
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VOTE:
Healy : Y Finst : Y
Nathanson : Y Pompey : Y
MOTION: APPROVED
COMMENTS: The parking has been approved by the Planning and
Zoning Board and City Commission, therefore no action was
taken by the Board.
6 . COA 8-015 Continuation. Old School Square Landscaping.
Marylou Strollo.
MOTION: Conceptual approval of Royal Palms.
VOTE:
Healy : Y Finst : Y
Nathanson : Y Pompey : Y
MOTION: APPROVED
MOTION: Conceptual approval of Landscaping.
Made: Alice Finst
Seconded: Spencer Pompey
VOTE:
Healy : Y Finst : Y
Nathanson : Y Pompey : Y
MOTION: APPROVED
MOTION: Approval of fountain and entryway paving (Coquina
and brick) .
Made: Alice Finst
Seconded: Spencer Pompey
VOTE:
Healy : Y Finst : Y
Nathanson : Y Pompey : Y
MOTION: APPROVED
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MOTION: Approval of Doric columns, bases and benches.
Made: David Nathanson
Seconded: Spencer Pompey
VOTE:
Healy : Y Finst : Y
Nathanson : Y Pompey : Y
MOTION: APPROVED
MOTION: Approval of pavers and Coquina block sidewalk.
Made: David Nathanson
Seconded: Spencer Pompey
VOTE:
Healy : Y Finst : Y
Nathanson : Y Pompey : Y
MOTION: APPROVED
MOTION: Approval of lights, same lights as downtown, but
without the banding on the glass globe.
Made: David Nathanson
Seconded: Spencer Pompey
VOTE:
Healy : Y Finst : Y
Nathanson : Y Pompey : Y
MOTION: APPROVED
COMMENTS: David Nathanson was concerned that the plan was
being approved in small segments and that no overall plan
had been approved, so that the Board may be misunderstanding
or fail to recognize the total picture. Pat Cayce and John
Johnson have also made the similar comments. The Board also
expressed concern over the overall consistency of the plan
for OSS, to which Mr. Curry, project architect responded.
The plans for the Phase 2 are to be presented at the Feb.
16th meeting.
6 . Transfer of Development Rights, a preservation concept.
Mr. Weedon provided a summary explanation of Mr. Kovacs memo
to the Board and the consensus was that this item should be
pursued and approved by the City.
7. Preservation Awards Resolution
The Board requested that commercial and industrial uses be
eliminated, and that the resolution be forwarded to the City
Commission for action.
8. Reimbursement of HPB Members for Preservation Conference.
Approved by unanimous vote.
9. Progress report on Five Historic Sites Marker.
Assistant City Attorney Susan Ruby informed the Board of
progress and procedures for completion of the easement
agreement. The marker has been ordered.
10. Unfinished Business
No unfinished business was discussed.
11. New Business
a. The Board asked that a letter be sent to the Community
Appearence Board asking that they pay particular
attention to the color chart for buildings adjacent to
the Historic Districts.
b. The Board asked that a letter be sent to the City
Manager, via David Kovacs, requesting that the small
unallocated enclosed office behind the counter in the
City Hall expansion be reserved for the Historic
Preservation Planner.
c. The Board also discussed the possibility of a local
conference with which would be held with the Historic
Districts. The consensus was to place this item on the
next agenda.
12. Adjournment
The meeting was adjourned by unanimous decision.