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HPB 08-18-1989 AMENDED AGENDA HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD MEETING FRIDAY AUGUST 18, 1989, 8:A.M. COMMISSION CHAMBERS, CITY HALL 1. Roll Call 2. Approval of minutes of July 14, 1989 Special Meeting and July 21, 1989 Regular Meeting 3. COA 8-067 John and Tanya Pennington, sign for 9 S.E. 7th Avenue 4. COA 8-064 34ark Little of Bright Image Signs for a sign at the City Marina 5. COA 8-068 Ferrin Signs, Ralph Lashells agent, for 3 signs for the Goodwill Store, 95 N.E. 1st Avenue 6. Continuation of COA 8-015 Old School Square, -for color selection 7. COA 8-065 Paul Piazzolla of Artistic Home Builders for proposed office building on vacant lot on N.W. 1st Avenue 8. COA 8-067 Demolition of a house at 229 S.E. 7th Avenue, owner Hammond Oldham or Authorized Agent Jo-An Vander Pluym 9. COA Preapplication Ellen Maier, for 401 N.E. 2nd Avenue 94. NOE /G , 4/4dor-7c �9v� 10. Status of 72 and 72 1/2 S.E. 5th Avenue. 11. Discussion of HPB Reserve Account 12. Memorandum of July 24, 1989 from Susan Ruby regarding the CLG Grant Award. 13. Review of City Commission decision of July, 25, 1989 as it relates to the funding of the Historic Sites Marker 14. Review of Historic Arts District for Old School Square Historic District 15. Review of Bed and Breakfast proposal from Planning and Zoning 16. Unfinished Business 17. New Business 18. Adjournment CO � a �1 � 1r MINUTES OF THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD MEETING AUGUST 18 , 1989 AT 8 : 00 A.M. MEMBERS PRESENT OTHERS PRESENT Diane DeMarco Susan Ruby, Ass ' t City Alice Finst Attorney Clemmer Mayhew Jerome Sanzone, Bldg, Dept. Dave Martin Stan Weedon, Ass ' t Planning David Nathanson Director Spencer Pompey John & Tanya Pennington Patricia Healy, Chairperson Ellen Maier Ham & Roth Oldham Richard Morse, Gimelstob Realty Joann Vanderplym, Ivan J. SMith & Co. Ralph Lashells, Goodwill Ind. Gene Fisher, O.S.S.H.A. Mark D. Little, Bright Image Bill Ayers, Old School Square Pat Cayce, Preservation Planner 1 . The Chairperson called the meeting to order at 8 : 05 a.m. . 2 . The recording secretary took the roll. 3 . The Chairperson called for a motion to approve the minutes of July 14, 1989 Special Meeting and the July 21, 1989 Regular meeting. The July 14, 1989 Special Meeting minutes were approved with no changes. Mr. Nathanson motioned to approve the July 14 , 1989 minutes. Seconded by Mr. Mayhew The Chairperson asked if all members were in favor of accepting the aforementioned minutes, all members were in agreement. The July 21, 1989 Regular Meeting minutes were approved with changes. Mr. Nathanson motioned to approve the July 21, 1989 minutes. Seconded by Ms. DeMarco. The Chairperson asked if all members were in favor of accepting the aforementioned minutes with changes, all members were in agreement. 4. Mr. Nathanson motioned to amend agenda to include item 9a COA8-070 , 16 E. Atlantic Ave. . Seconded by Ms. DeMarco. The Chairperson asked if all members were in favor, all members were in agreement. 5. C.O.A. 8-069 Mr. & Mrs Pennington 9 S.E. 7th Avenue The applicant is requesting to keep his existing sign as well as seeking approval of new sign. ( 1 ) , • The Historic Preservation Board approved the preference of the applicant regarding the design of the sign. The background of the sign is to be white and the letters to be mauve shade. The hare figure itself will be grey and white, the grey to be a shade to blend with the grey of the building. The existing temporary sign is to be removed on or before Monday August 28, 1989. Mr. Mayhew motioned to approve. Seconded by Mr. Martin. The vote was as follows: Diane DeMarco Yes Alice Finst Yes Clemmer Mayhew Yes Dave Martin Yes David Nathanson Yes Spencer Pompey Yes Patricia Healy Yes 6. C.O.A. 8-064 Mark Little of Bright Image sign at the City Marina The applicant is providing a sign for the City Marina. The Historic Preservation Board approved the installation of this sign proposal with the following modification: the signposts are to be enhanced with rope. The rope trim is to be at Mark Little' s design discretion. Mr. Nathanson motioned to approve the above. Seconded by Mr. Mayhew. The vote was as follows: Diane DeMarco Yes Alice Finst Yes Clemmer Mayhew Yes Dave Martin Yes David Nathanson Yes Spencer Pompey Yes Patricia Healy Yes 7. C.O.A. 8-068 Ferrin Signs, Ralph Lashells agent for Goodwill The applicant is requesting this COA for three (3 ) signs for the Good Will Store located at 95 N.E. 1st Avenue. The Historic Preservation Board found the sings as presented not acceptable to the aesthetics of an historic district. The Board suggested that a professional sign designer incorporate the following elements in the design: No plastic letters to be used, no illuminated cabinet signs, consider possibility of backlighting wooden channel letters, all signs to be smaller, all signs should be sensitive to, and appropriate with, the Old School Square District. The Board voted to grant a continuation of the COA to allow the applicant to resubmit a new sign for consideration. Mr. Nathanson motioned to continue and allow the applicant the two temporary signs for sixty days. Seconded by Ms. DeMarco. The vote was as follows: ( 2) Diane DeMarco Yes Alice Finst Yes Clemmer Mayhew Yes Dave Martin Yes David Nathanson Yes Spencer Pompey Yes Patricia Healy Yes 8. Continuation of C.O.A. 8-015 Old School Square Colors Bill Ayers/for OSS Mark Little/Bright Image Signs, Contractor Old School Square was not prepared with color selection at this time, however, Mr. Ayers is seeking approval of construction signs. Ms. Ruby stated the Board would have to amend the agenda to consider this item. Mr. Nathanson motioned to amend the agenda to read Old School Square Construction Signs as an emergency item. Seconded by Ms. DeMarco. There being no further discussion the Chairperson asked if all members were in favor, all members were in agreement. The Historic Preservation Board voted to approve three ( 3) temporary construction signs for Old School Square with the following modifications: The top three (3) lines to be in the following order: ( 1) Old School Square ( 2) Opening Spring 1990 ( 3) Phase I The signs are to be located at the corners of N. Swinton and N.E. 1st Street; N. Swinton And E. Atlantic Avenue; East Atlantic Ave. and N. E. 1st Avenue. Ms. Finst motioned to continue the Old School Square COA for color selection. Seconded by Mr. Nathanson. The Chairperson ask if all members were in favor. All members in agreement. Mr. Mayhew left the meeting at 9:07 a.m. and returned at 9: 12 a.m. . Ms. DeMarco left the meeting at 9: 12 a.m. and returned at 9: 15 a.m. . 9. C.O.A. 8-065 Paul Piazzolla of Artistic Home Builders Proposed Office Building on vacant lot at N. W. 1st Avenue. The applicant is before the Board requesting a COA regarding his proposed office building on the vacant lot located at N.W. 1st Avenue. Mr. Weedon addressed the Board regarding the above vacant lot, it was stated that there was a problem regarding the lot size. Mr. Weedon explained the a chain of title was necessary because the above lot does not meet the minimum width requirement. Mr. Weedon feels a variance request would be appropriate instead of a COA. (3) Ms. Ruby stated it would be inappropriate for the Board to grant a COA on a lot with uncertain dimensions, Ms. Ruby suggested a continuation until the above mentioned problems are resolved. Ms. DeMarco motioned to continue the above until the special meeting. Seconded by Mr. Nathanson. The Chairperson asked if all member were in favor of the continuation. All members were in agreement. The Board granted a continuation to allow the applicant time to present his chain of title to Planning and Zoning. If the title does not show sufficient lot size for the proposed new construction a variance request will be considered by the Board. 10. C.O.A. 8-067 Demolition of a house located at 229 S.E. 7th Avenue. Owner Hammond Oldham or Authorized Agent Jo-An Vander Pluym. The applicant is requesting to demolish existing structure at the above location upon completion of sale to the proposed new owner. The buyer would like to donate the above mentioned structure to the city, provided there is no cost to the buyer. The condition of the sale from the current owner to the buyer is based upon the approval of demolition or relocation of the existing structure. Ms. Ruby requested the current owner to state for the record (Mr. Oldham) , if he gave authorization to the buyer and Ms. Vander Pluym to represent him. For the record Mr. Oldham stated he did give the buyer and Ms. Vander Pluym authorization to represent him. Ms. Ruby addressed the Board regarding the questions in Section 174.33 (A) , Demolition (1) (a) (b) (c) (d) (e) , (1) The Historic Preservation Board upon a request for demolition by a property owner, shall consider the following guidelines in evaluating applications for a certificate of appropriateness for demolition of designated historic sites historic interiors, or buildings, structures, or appurtenances within designated historic districts; a) Whether the structure is of such interest or quality that it would reasonably fulfill criteria for designation for listing on the national register? Mr. Mayhew response was No. b) Whether the structure is of such design, craftsmanship, or material that it could be reproduced only with great expense? Mr. Mayhew requested Ms. Ruby to go on to the next question. ( 4) c) Whether the structure is one of the last remaining examples of its kind in the designated historic district within the city? Mr. Mayhew responded No. d) Whether retaining the structure would promote the general welfare of the city by providing an opportunity to study local history, architecture, and design, or by developing an understanding of the importance and value of a particular culture and heritage? Mr. Mayhew responded that the above is a possibility, because there were additional structures built at the same time. e) Whether there are definite plans for immediate reuse of the property if the proposed demolition is carried out, and what effect those plans will have on the character of the surrounding area? The Board was not able to respond to the above because no documentation was available to them. The authorized agent will discuss with Ms. Lula Butler, Community Improvement, the possibility of the structure being donated to the City for relocation and rehabilitation under the in-fill program. The buyer also can consider the possibility of relocating the building further from the street and keeping the existing facade and add new construction to the rear. The applicant will bring simple sketches and photos of style of houses to be built after demolition or relocation. The Board will hold a special meeting Tuesday morning August 29, 1989 at 9:00 a.m. . Mr. Nathanson motioned to continue the above COA until the special meeting scheduled for August 29, 1989 at 9: 00 a.m. . Seconded by Ms. DeMarco. There being no further discussion. The Chairperson asked if all members were in favor. All member were in agreement. 11. C.O.A. 8-071 Ellen Maier 401 N.E. 2nd Avenue The applicant is requesting this COA to repair and improve on the existing structure at 401 N.E. 2nd Avenue. The applicants COA appeared as a preapplication. At the request of the applicant the Board voted to amend the agenda to allow her preapplication to be considered as a standard application. Mr. Nathanson motioned to amend the agenda to read COA 8-071 instead of COA preapplication. Seconded by Mr. Pompey. The Chairperson asked if all members were in favor. All members were in agreement. ( 5 ) Mr. Weedon stated that the widening of certain streets by the year 2000 as outlined in the Comprehensive Plan will effect the above mentioned property. Ms. Maier stated she will address the above issue when and if the problem arises. Mr. Mayhew feels in view of the changes Ms. Maier will be making to her property, that a letter should go to Ms. Davila regarding an island that is in need of maintenance and or beautification. Mr. Mayhew feels that maintenance or beautification of this island will enhance Ms. Maier' s effort to improve her property. The applicants COA calls for all paving to be concrete, 1. Widen front (NE2nd Ave) walkway from sidewalk to steps. 2. Pave walk on south side of building. 3 . Pave garage floors. 4. Pave all parking areas and driveway. 5. The Board approved a curb cut to NE 2nd Ave. and a driveway just south of building. 6. Approved removal of chain link fence. 7. Approved erecting a 3 ' high CBS, Stucco finished wall adjacent to the sidewalk on NE2nd Ave. and on NE 4th St. The wall will have pilasters at intervals. Pilaster will be capped with terra cotta barrel tiles to match roof. All of the above to be approved by the City Engineer. 8. Repair or replace barrel tile roof with same type/color and style of existing roof. 9. Steam clean buildings, color not to be changed. Mr. Mayhew motioned to approve the above. Seconded by Mr. Nathanson. The vote was as follows: Diane DeMarco Yes Alice Finst Yes Clemmer Mayhew Yes Dave Martin Yes David Nathanson Yes Spency Pompey Yes Patricia Healy Yes (6) 11(a) . C.O.A. 8-070 16 E. Atlantic Ave. Polly Noe The applicant is requesting approval on front and rear exterior changes to the above mentioned property, including awnings, color and style, sign and paint color. Ms. Noe addressed the Board. Ms. Finst motioned to approve the above (without modification) . Seconded by Mr. Pompey. The vote was as follows: Diane DeMarco Yes Alice Finst Yes Clemmer Mayhew Yes Dave Martin Yes David Nathanson Yes Spencer Pompey Yes Patricia Healy Yes 12. Status of 72 & 72 1/2 S.E. 5th Ave. This property was proposed for demolition in December of 1988. It is not protected by Historic District status, however, Ms. Healy has some concerns regarding demolishing this property. Mr. Sanzone addressed the Board regarding the problems with the above property and other vacant buildings. Mr. Sanzone further stated that the above has termites, no plumbing, rotten wood, etc. Mr. Mayhew feels there would be no true winner in situation like this, if you don' t demolish then the above property will sit in decay. But, if you do demolish you have vacant lots to content with. Mr. Weedon feels the Board should address all demolitions by asking the appropriate questions as stated in the Historic Preservation guidelines. Mr. Nathanson asked the questions of Mr. Sanzone regarding Section 174.33 (A) Demolition (1) (a) (b) (c) (d) (e) . (See COA8-67 for the complete questions) Mr. Weedon ask Ms. Ruby if the above structure is going to be demolish by the City, can the Historic Preservation Board remove anything that is salvageable for future use in the District? Ms. Ruby stated that it would be better to ask the owner. Due to the responses of both Mr. Sanzone and the Board regarding the questions from the Historic Preservation guidelines a motion for demolition by Mr. Mayhew was called. Mr. Mayhew motioned for demolition of the above property. Seconded by Mr. Nathanson. The vote was as follows: (7) Diane DeMarco Yes Alice Finst Yes Clemmer Mayhew Yes Dave Martin Yes David Nathanson Yes Spencer Pompey Yes Patricia Healy No Mr. Mayhew expressed his concern regarding the Patio Delray. Ms. Finst wanted to know if the owner could not be brought before the Board since the Patio Delray is now in the District? It was stated that an attempt was made and dropped. Ms. Healy felt the Board should move on. 13 . Discussion of HPB Reserve Account Mr. Nathanson stated that the Reserve as of August 15, 1989 has a balance of $4,108. 31 of which $1, 000. 00 is encumbered, the operating account has $1,477. 45 of which $1, 000. 00 is encumbered. The total amount in the operating account is $477. 45 and the total amount in the reserve account is $3 ,108. 31. Mr. Mayhew motioned to return $3 ,000. 00 from the reserve account to the Delray Beach Historical Society. Mr. Mayhew stated that the Delray Beach Historical Society is in Cason Cottage and is in need of the funds. Ms. Ruby asked if the above money was accepted by the City Commission? If it was, Ms. Ruby stated the board would have to go through the City Commission before any funds are returned. Ms. DeMarco seconded for discussion. Ms. Healy asked for an explanation as to why Mr. Mayhew wanted this money. Mr. Mayhew stated he feels the Historical Society was very generous to the Preservation Board when it began and now the Preservation Board is a fully funded City Board, receiving funds and grants from other areas. Mr. Mayhew further stated that the Historical Society is in need of funds now and feels the Board should return the above aforementioned funds. Mr. Nathanson stated he is not against furnishing the Historical Society with funds however, the amount in question is too much. Ms. Finst expressed her concerns due to the funding necessary for the marker. Ms. Healy stated the funds were a donation and why are they requesting the funds back? Mr. Mayhew stated that the Historical Society did not request the funds back, he is requesting the Board return the funds. Mr. Pompey stated the Historical Society gave the money to assist the Historic Preservation Board get started why should the Board have to return it? (8) Ms. Healy, also feels if the Board returns the money it will deplete the Board' s Reserve account, with the up and coming conference the Board needs to have available funds on hand. Mr. Martin stated that from time to time the Board could give the Delray Beach Historical Society assistance with special projects, however he too feels that the large sum at this time is not justified. Ms. Healy stated there would be no need to address the City Commission regarding assistance with special projects. Ms. Ruby further stated that if a line item was within the budget that is specific you don' t have to go to the City Commission. Mr. Nathanson stated that this is not a line item. Ms. Ruby also stated that the Board' s vote would let the City Commission know what the Board' s intent was. The vote regarding the return of the $3 , 000. 00 to the Historical Society was as follows: Diane DeMarco No Alice Finst No Clemmer Mayhew Yes Dave Martin No David Nathanson No Spencer Pompey No Patricia Healy No The motion did not carry. 14. Memorandum of July 24, 1989 from Susan Ruby regarding the CLG Grant Award. Ms. Cayce stated the memorandum was in regards to the use of of Mr. Mayhew' s and Mr. Martin' s services for work on the Board' s design guidelines. Ms. Cayce further stated that it also addressed the issue regarding both Board members being compensated for their work. Ms. Ruby stated that the Florida Statues prohibit Board members and other public officials from doing business with their own agencies, however there are exception. The Board feels that it would be better than going outside have the guidelines prepared. 15. Review of City Commission Decision of July 25, 1989 as it Relates to the Funding of the Historic Sites Marker Ms. Finst stated that they have the money for the marker, however, we don' t have an agreement worked out with the City for location on private property. Ms. Healy questioned as to whether or not the Board could request for additional funds through donations. Ms. Cayce stated that Mt. Olive would not be able to assist in any financial matters. Ms. Finst stated that it is a City marker and it should be paid for by the City. It would not be a problem to ask for donations regarding the fencing and landscaping from the public. ( 9) 16. Review of Historic Arts District for Old Square Historic District. Mr. Weedon stated he has approximately 60% of the work done however, he needed lot size and building height. Ms. Healy suggested to put the above on the next agenda. 17. Review of Bed and Breakfast proposal from Planning and Zoning. Mr. Weedon addressed the Board regarding the proposed Bed and Breakfast amendment each Board member received. A bed & breakfast is also commonly referred to as a "guest house" which is defined by our code as: "A dwelling containing rooms which are rented for the temporary care or lodging of transients and travelers, and advertised as such to the general public. " Mr. Weedon stated that the proposed Bed and Breakfast is a zoning amendment ordinance that would provide use in districts where the use is allowed. Mr. Nathanson asked if the Bed and Breakfast should be included in the Old School Square district? The Board responded Yes. Ms. Finst questioned as to how this ordinance would apply to Mrs. Maier, who has apartments in her building at the current time. Mr. Weedon stated that Mrs. Maier would not be able to apply this ordinance to her apartment building. All Board Members are in favor of the concept of a Bed and Breakfast however, the above was discussion only. There was no formal vote. 18. Unfinished Business a) Ms. Healy stated that Florida Trust will pursue a joint venture with the Board for the conference. The Florida Trust will provide a mailing list, a discount for the membership, they will also work with the Board regarding suggestions for the program. Mr. Charles Wilson, Director of the Florida Trust will be in attendance. The proposed date is January 12, 1990 . b) Ms. Ruby informed the Board of the programs Charleston has, where the City assist in fixing up houses. She further stated if the Board members were interested it could be discussed at the next meeting. ( 10) • Mr. Nathanson stated that his intent was to try to salvage the Mackel houses. Mr. Nathanson feels this might be one way to salvage these houses. 18 . New Business a) Ms. Cayce informed the Board that the Secretary of State, Mr. J. Smith will arrive here Tuesday, August 22, 1989 at 2: 30 p.m. to give the award to Old School Square. Ms. Cayce further stated that Old School Square would like representation from the Board. b) Ms. Finst inquired as to what was happening with the Ferrguson property? Ms. Finst also inquired about the letter that was scheduled to go out to the Mackel Corporation? Ms. Cayce informed the Board that the letters did not go out yet. Ms. Finst suggested Ms. Cayce contact the licensing agency to acquire information on the Mackel Corporation. c) Ms. Cayce presented the letter for paint violators, the letter is not complete. Mr. Weedon and Ms. Cayce is working on the above. e) Mr. Mayhew announced that the December 1989 meeting will be his last meeting. He will be resigning from the Historic Preservation Board. 19 . Adjournment. Ms. Healy motioned to adjournment. Seconded by Mr. Nathanson. The Chairperson asked if all Board members were in favor. All Board members were. The meeting was adjourned at 11: 45 a.m. . (11)