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HPB 08-29-1989 AGENDA HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD SPECIAL MEETING TUESDAY, AUGUST 29, 1989, 9:00 A. M. COMMISSION CHAMBERS, CITY HALL 1. Roll Call 2. Discussion of the proposed future nomination of "Wilson Property:aka Ocean Apple Estate" , to Local Historic, Building Status. Mr. Charles Siemons, Attorney, will represent 'Joyce Wilson, owner. 3 . COA 8-072 for patio awning at Oak School; St. Paul,s Church, 188 Swinton Avenue. 4. COA for resurfacing and widening asphalt driveway, 110 N.E. 5th Street. Carr Driveways to represent owner, Judy Mershimer. 5 . COA 8-065 Paul Piazzolla of Artistic Home Builders for proposed office on vacant lot on N.W. 1st Avenue. 6. COA 8-067 Demolition of house at 229 S.E. 7th Avenue: owner, Hammond Oldham or Authorized Agent Jo-An Vander Pluym. 7 . Approval of revised COAs 8 . Unfinished business 9. New Business 10. Adjournment MINUTES OF THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD SPECIAL MEETING AUGUST 29, 1989 AT 9:00 A.M. MEMBERS PRESENT OTHERS PRESENT Alice Finst Lula Butler, Director Community Clemmer Mayhew Improvement Dave Martin Jerome Sanzone, Building Dept. David Nathanson Susan Ruby, Ass ' t City Attorney Spencer Pompey John P. Johnson, Director, Patricia Healy, Chairperson Historic Preservation Board Palm Beach County Stan Weedon, Ass '-t Planner Charles L. Siemon Lee D. Einsweiler MEMBERS NOT PRESENT Paul Piazzola, Artistic Homes Diane DeMarco Catherine Mouw Joan Vander Pluym Ivan J. Smith Hammond OldHam Pat Cayce, Preservation Planner 1. The Chairperson called th meeting to order at 9:00 A.M. . 2. The recording secretary took the roll. 3 . The Chairperson called for a motion to amend the agenda to include COA8-073 Neals Market, this item will appear on the agenda as 6a. Mr. Nathanson motioned to approve the amended agenda. Seconded by Mr. Mayhew. The Chairperson asked if all members were in favor. All members were in agreement. 4. Discussion of the proposed future nomination of "Wilson Property:aka Ocean Apple Estate" to Local Historic Building Status. Mr. Charles Siemons, Attorney will represent Joyce Wilson, owner of the above mentioned property. The applicant wants her property to become one of Historic Status. Mr. Siemons presented the Board with a proposed designation report on the house, which is located on AlA. Mr. Siemons also presented the Board with photos of the property. Mr. Siemons further stated that the owner wants the entire property included in the designation. Mr. Mayhew is in favor of the nomination. Ms. Cayce stated that the nomination of the above mention property is scheduled for the September 15, 1989 meeting. Mr. Siemons stated if anyone is interested in seeing the above mentioned property that all are welcome. Ms. Ruby stated she does not feel all Board members should visit the property together (based on the Sunshine law) . Ms. Finst suggested the date of September 14, 1989 for each Board member to visit the property, there is to be fifteen (15) minutes between each Board members visit. This is in keeping with the Sunshine law. ( 1) 5. C.O.A. 8-072 Oak School; St. Paul' s Church 188 Swinton Avenue. The applicant is requesting a COA for entrance patio awning at the Oak School. Ms. Mouw was representing Oak School. The school will be in the old rectory building at St. Paul' s Episcopal Church. The building is on the corner of SW 2nd St. and Sw 1st Avenue. The awning will be installed on the NW rear of the building, which will become the main entrance to the school. It will be visible from SW 1st Avenue. It is 2" forest green and white stripe with a scalloped edging on the drop. Mr. Mayhew motioned to approve without changes. Seconded by Mr. Pompey. The vote was as follows: Diane DeMarco Not Present Alice Finst Yes Clemmer Mayhew Yes Dave Martin Yes David Nathanson Yes Spencer Pompey Yes Patricia Healy Yes 6. C.O.A. 8-074 Judy Mershimer 110 N. E. 55h Avenue Carr Driveways represent owner The applicant is requesting a COA to resurface and widen by 3 ' on each side, an existing asphalt driveway at 110 N. E. 5th St. Del-Ida Park. The City' s Engineering Dept. has given its approval. Mr. Mayhew motioned to approve without modification. Seconded by Mr. Martin. The vote was as follows: Diane DeMarco Not Present Alice Finst Yes Clemmer Mayhew Yes Dave Martin Yes David Nathanson Yes Spencer Pompey Yes Patricia Healy Yes 7. C.O.A. 8-065 Paul Piazzolla Artistic Home Builders for proposed office on vancant lot on N. W. 1st Avenue. This is a continued COA from August 18, 1989 meeting. Mr. Mayhew motioned for discussion. Seconded by Mr. Pompey. The Board voted to approve the above COA with the following modifications: 1. The window treatment as shown on the west elevation of the plan to be used on north and east elevation as well. The applicant will come before the Board at a later date for: ( 2) 1. Approval of a more detailed landscape plan. 2. Approval of all final decorative trim: Wall Tiles, color banding etc. 3 . Permanent sign approval. The site plan, building design, roof tile, floor tile, and exterior paint color were all approved. Mr. Sanzone stated that Mr. Piazolla would not be able to receive his permit until he receive his handicapp access. Mr. Sanzone feels it would be a hardship due to the type of building and does not anticipate any problems for Mr. Piazolla. The Historic Preservation Board approved a temporary construction sign if it meets all code and staff requirements. Ms. Finst motioned to approve with the above modifications. Seconded by Mr. Nathanson. The vote was as follows: Diane DeMarco Not Present Alice Finst Yes Clemmer Mayhew Yes Dave Martin Yes David Nathanson Yes Spencer Pompey Yes Patricia Healy Yes 8. C.O.A. 8-067 Demolition of House at 229 S. E. 7th Avenue; owner, Hammond Oldham or Authorized Agent Jo-An Vander Pluym The applicant is requesting to demolish existing structure at the above location. At the August 18, 1989 meeting, it was determined that the sale of the above property to the proposed new owners was based primarily on the condition that the proposed new owners would be able to demolish or rebuild on the property. Ms. Vander Pluym stated the proposed new owners and the current owner addressed the issue with Ms. Butler. Ms. Butler state that under the owner occupid Housing Rehab Program guidelines it would not be economically possible to relocate the above aforemention structure. The program is designed for people with very low income, total cost allow within the program is $30,000. 00 which is for moving, rehab, etc. . Ms. Butler further state that the relocation of the above structure would be $42,000.00 and that does not include rehabilitation. There would also be a problem with maintaining the houses historical nature. Ms. Butler suggested other avenues be pursued. (3 ) Ms. Ruby stated another alternative is to have the City provide funds to relocate the house onto City property, however it would have to go before the City Commission for approval. Ms. Finst asked if a sign could be put up to let people know the house is available. Ms. Vander Pluym stated the house has been listed along with the property for sale and no one is interested because of the age of the house. Ms. Vander Pluym further stated that the proposed buyer would be willing to donate the house if someone wanted. Ms. Vander Plyum questioned the actual age built in of the house, it was stated that of the was house is 1937. Mr. Martin motioned to approve the demolition, Mr. Mayhew suggested the demolition be dated six months from today. ( 9/29/89) However, Mr. Swan, who represents the proposed purhcasing feel six months would poss a hardship for the applicant and he requested three months instead of six months. Mr. Nathanson wanted to know if three month would be enough time to investigate the possible move of the above structure to City owned property. Mr. Nathanson suggested Ms. Butler express her opinion in this matter. Ms. Butler stated that the Board would have to make a recommendation to have the above structure moved to City owned property, she could not verify if three months would be sufficient or not. Ms. Healy does not agree with a three month stay as oppose to a six month stay. Mr. Mayhew suggested four months instead of six months. Mr. Swan state four months was acceptable to the proposed buyer. Mr. Martin amended his motion to approve the demolition of the above structure within four months. Seconded by Mr. Mayhew. The vote was as follows: Diane DeMarco Not Present Alice Finst No Clemmer Mayhew Yes Dave Martin Yes David Nathanson Yes Spencer Pompey Yes Patricia Healy No Mr. Mayhew left the meeting at 10: 02 a.m. . Ms. Healy suggested the proposed buyer look around the neighborhood and utilize the existing structure, so to keep with the historical area. 9. C.O.A 8-073, Victor Neil (repaint) The applicant is requesting a COA to repaint and awnings. (4) The applicant will repaint with the existing color. Mr. Nathanson motioned to approve the above COA. Seconded by Mr. Martin. The vote was as follows: Diane DeMarco Not Present Alice Finst Yes Clemmer Mayhew Yes Dave Martin Yes David Nathanson Yes Spency Pompey Yes Patricia Healy Yes 10. Approval of revised COA' s Additional changes to the revised COA were made by Board Members. Mr. Martin left the meeting at 10: 17 a.m. . All Board Members approved of the revised COA with changes. The Board members gave Ms. Cayce the option to return in the future if a problem occurs with the revised COA. Mr. Nathanson motioned to approve the revised COA with changes. Seconded by Mr. Pompey. The vote was as follows: Diane DeMarco Not Present Alice Finst Yes Clemmer Mayhew Not Present Dave Martin Not Present David Nathanson Yes Spencer Pompey Yes Patricia Healy Yes 11. Unfinished Business a. Mr. Nathanson asked Ms. Ruby if she would be submitting any information regarding assistance to homeowners to rehabilitate within the Historic districts. Ms. Ruby stated that she does have information and she will submit a memo to the Board with that information. Ms. Cayce stated that a surveyor informed her that a Corporation within the state of Florida could donate up to $400,000. 00, which will give that Corporation a tax break. Mr. Nathanson suggested that Ms. Ruby and Mr. Johnson combine efforts and provide the Board with information on what programs would assist their needs. b. Mr. Nathanson expressed his concerns regarding the 5000 sq. feet ordinance. Mr. Nathanson wants adjustment made to the ordinance and he also would like the Board to have sight and structural plan approval. Ms. Finst feels this information should be addressed to Ms. Butler. (5) Mr. Nathanson requested a letter be sent to Ms. Butler and have her address the issue. Ms. Ruby suggested the letter be addressed to the City Manager and let him delegate the task accordingly. Ms. Ruby also suggested a letter addressing the house located at 229 S. E. 7th Ave. (COA 8067) go out too. The Board wants to know if the City is interested in it. c. Ms. Healy will be attending the Florida Trust conference. Ms. Finst inquired as to the funding availability. Mr. Nathanson stated the funds are available from the reserve account. Ms. Finst inquired if next years budget would include travel expense. Mr. Nathanson stated that next year' s budget would include travel expense. d. Mr. Nathanson inquired as to the status of the Historic Marker. Ms. Finst presented the proposed plans for the site as well as the landscaping for the Historic marker. Mr. Weldon of Well done signs has been employed to do the marker. Ms. Healy stated Mr. Weldon is strickly a designer, Ms. Healy further stated that Mr. Weldon would have to contract a sign company within the City of Delray Beach. Ms. Healy expressed her concerns regarding the installation and the • completion of the job. Ms. Healy feels the Board should be made aware of the above. Ms. Cayce stated that extensive checking was done and the only other person who works with bronze is Mark Little, Mr. Little does not want to do this sign. Ms. Cayce further stated that time has been wasted trying to determine who can do the sign. Ms. Healy stated that Mr. Weldon use once worked for Bright Image and he no longer works for them. Ms. Healy further stated that Mr. Weldon is not responsible for the work he is now taking credit for. Ms. Cayce stated that the people at the Historical Society was very happy with his work, he completed on time and he did not over charge. Mr. Weedon and Ms. Ruby suggested going through Purchasing. ( 6) e. Mr. Nathanson wanted to know the status of two pending COA' s. 1. The roof at 721 N. Swinton Ave. (Del-Ida Park) , Mr. & Mrs. May. (see July 21, 1989 minutes for additional information, item #4) Mr. & Mrs. May never returned to the Board. 2. The Goodwill Sign. It was stated that the Goodwill Sign is not scheduled until September 15 , 1989. f. Mr. Pompey inquired as to the cost of the additional markers for the other organization. Ms. Cayce informed Mr. Pompey that the price would be $85. 00 with installation. g. Mr. Weedon addressed the Board regarding the property at Fourth and Second kiddy corner of the Post office, he stated that there are plans to put ground covering there. However, the success or failure is questionable because it is not possible to put plumbing in such a small area. Mr. Weedon addressed issue brought to his attention by the Board. He stated that with regards to the Comprehensive Plan, there is a program that requires the removal of dangerous traffic situations etc. which should be in place by fiscal year 1989/90. h. Ms. Healy stated that the Florida Conference should take place around the weekend of the 12th of January. Plans are in the works, there will be a Friday night gayla, Saturday workshop and tour, Ms. Healy would like to use the Wilson house for a Saturday night function. i. Ms. Finst questioned as to what is happening with the Mackel houses. Ms. Cayce stated that she has tried everything with no success. Mr. Weedon suggested the Board wait until Ms. Ruby and Mr. Johnson returns with information regarding funds available for restoration. j . Ms. Finst wanted to know if there was any response to the painting letters. Ms. Cayce stated she did receive responses, and she' s convinced that the ordinance states if you don't change the color you don' t need a COA. Ms. Cayce stated that the get tough letters did not go out until two days ago. 12. New Business Ms. Healy read a letter from Ms. Christina Bounton owner of the Colony Hotel, the letter was in reference to the streetscape in front of the Colony Hotel along Atlantic Avenue. Ms. Healy wants a letter to go out to Mr. John Walker and attach a scatch of what Ms. Bounton feels is appropriate with regards to the Streetscaping. Ms. Finst would like to remove the trees all together. Ms. Cayce asked if a copy of the letter went to the Historical Society, Ms. Healy did not know. Ms. Cayce will check to see if the Historical Society received a copy of the above letter, if not she will request the Historical Society to send one. ( 17) ( • • b. Mr. Weedon presented a draft of. the Old School Square Historic Arts District, a memo was to accompany the draft however, the computer lost it. Mr. Weedon stated that there are two items in question. 1. Do you want multi-family within the Historic District. There are existing multi-family projects non conforming properies. 2. Ms. Ruby needs to look at the way Mr. Weedon has addressed the GC and the CBD, he has not changed anything there. He has added the additional arch related uses, they were zoned RO, RM6, RM10. Mr. Nathanson wanted to know from a Historic standpoint was this area single family. Mr. Weedon was not able to address the issue. Mr. Nathanson wanted to know if we could take the whole area and make it one zoning district. Mr. Weedon is trying to retain GC and the CBD for consistency. 13 . Mr. Martin motioned to adjourn. Seconded by Mr. Nathanson. The Chairperson asked if there was any discussion, all members were in favor of adjournment. The August 29, 1989 Special Meeting adjourned at 11:10 a.m.. (8)