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AMENDED AGENDA
HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD MEETING
FRIDAY SEPTEMBER 15, 1989 8:00 A.M.
FIRST FLOOR CONFERENCE ROOM, CITY HALL
1. Roll Call
2. Public Hearing for Variance Request 88-12. Robert L. Bauer,
202 N.E. 5th Terrace. Presented by Dan Davis, Authorized
Agent.
3. COA 8-075 Robert L. Bauer, 202 N.E. 5th Terrace. Addition to
dwelling; presented by Dan Davis, Authorized Agent.
4. Approval of Designation Report for Ocean Apple Estate, 610 N.
Ocean Blvd. Presented by owner, Roderick T. Wilson or
Authorized Agent, Charles Siemon.
5. COA 8-076 Claudia and Stephen Echols, 213 S.E. 7th
Avenue. New construction; presented by David Martin,
Architect, Authorized Agent.
6. COA 8-077 for Bill Andrews, 217 N.E. 4th St. New
construction, swimming pool and fence.
7. COA for 543 N.E. 3rd Avenue. Paint exterior with change of
color; presented by Jan Proctor, Authorized Agent.
8. COA 8-078 for Alieda Riley, 65 Palm Square. Paint exterior,
no change of color.
9. COA 8-079 Bridge Copy Center, 832 E. Atlantic Ave. , presented
by Kim Parham. Paint awning and mount new sign.
10. Doug Randolph, City Finance Department, discussion regarding
preservation grants.
11. Approval of minutes of August 18, 1989 meeting
12. Unfinished Business
13 . New Business
14. Adjournment
AGENDA
HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD MEETING
FRIDAY SEPTEMBER 15, 1989 8:00 A.M.
COMMISSION CHAMBERS, CITY HALL
1. Roll Call
2. Public Hearing for Variance Request 88-12 . Robert L. Bauer,
202 N.E. 5th Terrace. Presented by Dan Davis, Authorized
Agent.
3. COA 8-075 Robert L. Bauer, 202 N.E. 5th Terrace. Addition to
dwelling; presented by Dan Davis, Authorized Agent.
4. Approval of Designation Report for Ocean Apple Estate, 610 N.
Ocean Blvd. Presented by owner, Roderick T. Wilson or
Authorized Agent, Charles Siemon.
5. COA 8-076 Claudia and Stephen Echols, 213 S.E. 7th
Avenue. New construction; presented by David Martin,
Architect, Authorized Agent.
6. COA for Bill Andrews, 217 N.E. 4th St. New construction,
swimming pool and fence.
7. COA for 543 N.E. 3rd Avenue. Paint exterior with change of
color; presented by Jan Proctor, Authorized Agent.
8. COA for Alieda Riley, 65 Palm Square. Paint exterior, no
change of color.
9. Doug Randolph, City Finance Department, discussion regarding
preservation grants.
10. Approval of minutes of August 18, 1989 meeting
11. Unfinished Business
12 . New Business
13 . Adjournment
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MINUTES OF THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD ////7 1
SEPTEMBER 15, 1989 8 : 00 A.M.
MEMBERS PRESENT OTHERS PRESENT
Alice Finst Jerome Sanzone, Building Dept.
Clemmer Mayhew Susan Ruby, Ass ' t City Attorney
Dave Martin John P. Johnson, Director,
David Nathanson Susan Ruby, Ass ' t City Attorney
Spencer Pompey John P. Johnson, Director,
Patricia Healy, Chairperson Historic Preservation Board Palm
Beach County
Stan Weedon, Ass ' t Planner
Charles L. Siemon
Robert Bauer
MEMBERS NOT PRESENT Joyce & Rod Wilson
Diane DeMarco Excuse Absence Steven Gordon
Kim Parham
Pat Hart
Kathleen Dearden
Mary Lou Jamison
Dan Davis
Pat Cayce, Preservation Planner
1 . The Chairperson called th meeting to order at 8 : 10 A.M. .
2. The recording secretary took the roll.
3 . Variance request #88-12
Robert L. Bauer, 202 N. E. 5th Terrace.
Presented by Dan Davis, Authorized Agent
The applicant is requesting a variance under section
173 . 185 A, the Side (interior) setback of 1 story dwelling
in the RM-10 zoning district is 15 feet. Only 13 . 2 feet is
provided. The applicant is requesting a 1. 8 foot variance
so that a 9 ' x 17 ' 9" addition to the dwelling may be built
13 ' . 2" from the east interior property line. The house is
non-contributing. A letter of justification was read for
the record. The legal description lots 1 and 2 less the
east 25 ' thereof block 9 Del-Ida Park, Delray Beach, Palm
Beach County, Florida as recorded in Plat Book 9, Page 52.
There was no public response with the exception of Ina McFee
who had previously phoned to say that she and three
neighbors were in favor granting the variance. Mr. Davis
addressed the Board, he stated that the above required space
was necessary.
Mr. Sanzone feels the above would not be a problem, it would
be an enhancement.
The Board determined that the applicant was asking for the
minimum variance in order to allow the addition to his
dwelling. Mr. Nathanson motioned to approve. Seconded by
Mr. Pompey. The vote was as follows:
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Diane DeMarco Excused
Alice Finst Yes
Clemmer Mayhew Yes
Dave Martin Yes
David Nathanson Yes
Spencer Pompey Yes
Patricia Healy Yes
5. C.O.A. 8-075 Robert L. Bauer
202 N.E. 5th Terrace
Presented by Dan Davis Authorized Agent
The applicant is requesting a COA to make an addition of a
bathroom within his house. The addition will be on the S.
E. corner of the existing building. The walls to be CBS
with stucco finish the roof will match existing roof, two
skylights to be installed. The following modification was
made to the aforementioned COA. A 6 ' hedge must be main-
tained on the N. E. 5th Terrace front property line to block
the view of the addition from the street. Mr. Nathanson
motioned to approve with the aforementioned condition.
Seconded by Mr. Pompey. The vote was as follows:
Diane DeMarco Excused
Alice Finst Yes
Clemmer Mayhew Yes
Dave Martin Yes
David Nathanson Yes •
Spencer Pompey Yes
Patricia Healy Yes
6. Approval of Designation Report
for Ocean Apple Estate, 610 N. Ocean Blvd.
Presented by owner, Roderick T. Wilson or
Authorized Agent, Charles Siemon.
The Board Members addressed the Nomination Report.
Mr. Siemon addressed the Board. Mr. Siemon directed all
parties attention to the location of the original property
location. Mr. Siemon stated that the existing structure
does qualify for Historic Designation.
Ms. Ruby and Mr. Weedon have strong opposition to the
conditions set forth by the Nomination Report. It was
stated by both Ms. Ruby and Mr. Weedon they are not opposed
to Nomination of the Fox House however, the conditions of
the Nomination Report is where the conflict arises.
Mr. Johnson and Mr. Sanzone agree with Ms. Ruby and Mr.
Weedon.
There was extensive discussion regarding the Nomination
Report.
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A letter of recommendation from Ms. DeMarco stated that she
is in favor of the above nomination of the Fox House.
Ms. Finst motioned to approve the Nomination Report as
presented. Seconded by Mr. Nathanson. The vote was as
follows:
Diane DeMarco Letter of acceptance
for Nomination.
Alice Finst Yes
Clemmer Mayhew Yes
Dave Martin Yes
David Nathanson Yes
Spencer Pompey Yes
Patricia Healy Yes
The Designation will commence as the next step.
7. C.O.A. 8-076 Claudia and Stephen Echols
213 S. E. 7th Avenue. New Construction;
presented by David Martin, Architect, Authorized Agent
Due to the conflict of interest Mr. Martin removed himself
from the Board. The COA for the Echols ' new construction
which was approved some time ago has proven too costly. Mr.
Martin is redesigning it into a one story building. The
house will be in the same location as the previous design.
Plans and sketches were submitted to each Board Member. A
conflict of interest application was signed by .Mr. Martin.
Ms. Finst motioned to approve the above C.O.A. including
colors, (since there was no change in color, the original
COA applies) roofing and landscaping. Seconded by Mr.
Nathanson. The vote was as follows:
Diane DeMarco Excused Absence
Alice Finst Yes
Clemmer Mayhew Yes
Dave Martin Conflict of Interest
David Nathanson Yes
Spencer Pompey Yes
Patricia Healy Yes
8. C.O.A. 8-077 Bill Andrews
217 N. E. 4th Street, New
Construction, Swimming Pool and Fence.
The applicant is proposing to buy the old Manson property at
217 N. E. 4th St. . The applicant plans new construction of
pool and fence, landscaping and sign location as well as
design. Mr. Mayhew motioned to approve the above COA as
presented. Seconded by Mr. Nathanson. The vote was as
follows:
Diane DeMarco Excused Absence
Clemmer Mayhew Yes
Dave Martin Yes
David Nathanson Yes
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Spency Pompey Yes
Patricia Healy Yes
9 . C. 0. A. 8-080 •
543 N. E. 3rd Avenue
Paint exterior with change of
color; presented by Jan Proctor,
Authorized Agent.
The applicant is requesting this COA to change the original
color of exterior. The paint color will be Benjamin Moore
Paint: Exterior 1/A 506 which is a pale celdon green with
white trim. Mr. Mayhew motioned to approve as presented.
Seconded by Mr. Martin. The vote was as follows:
Diane DeMarco Excused Absence
Alice Finst Yes
Clemmer Mayhew Yes
Dave Martin Yes
David Nathanson Yes
Spencer Pompey Yes
Patricia Healy Yes
10. C. O. A. 8-078
Ms Alieda Riely
65 Palm Square/ Paint exterior
no change of color.
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The applicant is requesting this COA to paint the exterior
of the above location with Sherwin Williams a-100 latex flat
house paint white with yellow corn trim. Ms. Finst motioned
to approve the above COA as presented. Seconded by Mr.
Martin. The vote was as follows:
Diane DeMarco Excused Absence
Alice Finst Yes
Clemmer Mayhew Yes
Dave Martin Yes
David Nathanson Yes
Spencer Pompey Yes
Patricia Healy Yes
11. C. O. A. 8-079
Bridge Copy Center
832 E. Atlantic Ave. ,
Presented by Kim Parham.
Paint awning and mount new sign.
The applicant is requesting this COA to repaint the existing
awning pink to match the awning over the store to the west.
Lettering and boarder to be white. They also proposed to
install a new sign (or refurbish the existing sign) with
blue background and white letters. Samples of colors as
well as pictures were provided for Board Members. Mr.
Gordon spoke on behalf of Ms. Parham. Mr. Gordon stated
that the existing awning is ugly, he wanted to match the
other awning along the street. However, the Board members
feel that matching the existing awnings is inappropriate, no
awnings
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are appropriate.
Mr. Sanzone stated that he has a Video presentation with the
projection of what is to come.
Mr. Mayhew asked if Mr. Gordon would same money by not
putting up an awning, since the right way is no awning at
all.
Mr. Gordon stated that the awning is already there and would
not prove any hardship at all to remove it. Mr. Gordon
stated that is what Ms. Parham wants anyway, to remove the
awning.
Ms. Healy stated that this COA was pulled from the CAB
agenda to ensure that the building is brought back to its
Historical Nature.
Mr. Gordon has no objections to removing the existing
awning however, Mr. Gordon and Ms. Parham expressed their
concerns regarding the exposed air condition unit without an
awning.
The following are possible suggestion from the Board.
The Board members feel no awning or an eyebrow awning to
cover the air condition unit, with no advertising on it.
No replacement sign would be necessary. Mr. Johnson
suggested the text could be put on the eyebrow awning.
Mr. Mayhew stated that the Boyd Building should be their
sign.
Mr. Gordon stated that the Board is giving Ms. Parham
exactly what she wants, with regards to the above
suggestion.
Mr. Mayhew stated that if Mr. Gordon would approach the
• owner, Burton Handlesman he would be willing to make the
building the landmark it should be. . However, Mr. Mayhew
does not have time to undertake this task himself. Ms.
Finst motioned to continue this COA until next meeting.
Seconded by Mr. Nathanson. The vote was as follows:
Diane DeMarco Excused Absence
Alice Finst Yes
Clemmer Mayhew Yes
Dave Martin Yes
David Nathanson Yes
Spencer Pompey Yes
Patricia Healy Yes
12. Dough Randolph, City Finance Department,
Discussion regarding preservation grants.
Mr. Randolph addressed the Board, each Board member was
presented with a listing of Historical Preservation Funding.
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Mr. Randolph stated that his primary funtion is to seek out
grants.
Mr. Nathanson ask if Mr. Randolph got involved with private
industry grants.
Mr. Randolph stated it is difficult for a foundation to
receive a City as a valid grant recipient because they feel
the City has tax payers. You can however go through a
Non-profit organization. Mr. Randolph proceeded to explain
each item listed, giving details regarding the do' s and
don't for grant funding.
Ms. Finst asked if there were any grants available for
Historic Preservation.
Mr. Randolph stated yes however, the amount of the funds
aren't very large for Historic Preservation.
Mr. Nathanson further stated that the Board already have a
matching grant and he questioned as to the status of the
Board' s current grant.
Mr. Weedon stated a request for the grant to appear on the
City' s Commission agenda for Tuesday of this week did not
occur. However, it will appear on the next City Commission
agenda. Mr. Weedon expressed his concerns regarding the
City' s commitment to this matching grant, basically because
its commitment exists only in the form of a memo from
Ex-City Manager Pennington to Mr. Barry. However, Ms. Cayce
discovered the money is available but has not been budgeted,
this could cause a problem regarding the funding grant.
Ms. Cayce further stated that if these funds aren't used
before June the Board would lose them, Ms. Cayce was
instructed to request for an addition on the Board' s time
limit.
Mr. Nathanson asked Mr. Randolph if he was aware of the
above, Mr. Randolph state he was not. Mr. Nathanson wants
to know what will become of the matching grant fund. Mr.
Nathanson asked if anyone approached the City Manager and
informed him of the above.
Mr. Weedon stated that would be taken care of with a memo
that Ms. Cayce will provide.
Mr. Mayhew wants the memo to stress the need for additional
funds.
Mr. Nathanson stated the above must go on the agenda, a
specific account is listed where the funds are, City
Commission approval of the funding from that source
based upon the verbal commitment, and that the funds be
encumbered. An R.F.P has to be development to ensure funds
are not expired.
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All Board member were in favor of submitting an R.F.P. for
an extension, whether it is needed now or not.
Mr. Nathanson is also looking for assistant for homeowner
who live in the historic district. Mr. Nathanson wants Mr.
Randolph to pursue the above.
There was extensive discussion regarding available funding
grants for other projects.
Ms. Ruby gave each Board member a complete package with
information she obtained from Charleston South Carolina
regarding the use of grants for Historic Preservaion within
that city.
13 . Approval of minutes of August 8, 1989 meeting.
The minutes of the August 8, 1989 meeting were not
approved because page 7 was missing from each Board memebers
packet. The August 8, 1989 minutes will be approved at the
next meeting.
14. Public Hearing
Ms. Finst motioned to approve the public hearing for 610
N. Ocean Blvd at the Wednesday, September 20, 1989 meeting,
at 9: 00 a.m. . Seconded by Mr. Nathanson. The Chairperson
asked if all members were in favor. There was no
opposition, all members were in favor.
Mr. Martin left the meeting at 11:48 a.m. .
15. Unfinished Business.
a. Bed and Breakfast.
Ms. Healy feels Bed and Breakfast should be restricted to
the Historic District and specifically designated
individually owned, not for the entire City. Ms. Healy
wants a memo sent to Commission to express her concerns
regarding the above. Mr. Nathanson stated staff memo did
not include or stress the point of an owner or a manager
had to be present at the designated Bed and Breakfast
location.
b. Possible candidate for Mr. Mayhew spot on the Board.
Ms. Healy stated that the Board needs quality
applications for candidates to fill the vacant spot up and
coming on the Board, Ms. Healy further stated that all
applications should be submitted to Pat Cayce for
consideration. Ms. Healy would like the qualified
candidate to sit in on a few meetings prior to their
appointment. Ms. Finst stressed the importance of having
someone with the Historical background of Mr. Mayhew.
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c. Letter to Commission regarding the Preservation Conference.
Ms. Healy stated a letter will go to the Commission
requesting permission to have the Preservation Conference
in January. The Board will not be able to have the
Conference without the Commission' s approval. Mr. Johnson
feels the letter should state that the percedent was
established last year.
d. H.A.D.
Mr. Mayhew wanted to know if the Board was going to discuss
the Historic Arts District at all.
Mr. Weedon wanted know if the Board had' any questions or
concerns regarding the written material on H.A.D. , Mr.
Weedon further stated the Board members please visit the
office or send their concerns into the office.
Mr. Nathanson addressed the issue of the 5000 sq. feet
requirements, and the Board having the site plan approval.
Ms. Cayce had all correspondence regarding the above and
would forward that information to Mr. Weedon. Mr. Nathanson
further expressed his concerns regarding the above and how
it effects various applicants.
d. Cote
321 N. Swinton •
Ms. Finst stressed the plan that was approved was not put
into affect.
Mr. Mayhew express to the Board that Mr. Cote did encounter
some problems regarding the restoration.
e. Ms. Ferguson
Ms. Finst stated that Ms. Ferguson has yet to complete the
approved changed by the Board and her two months are up.
Ms. Cayce stated she would follow up on it.
f. Video presentation/evening meeting
Ms. Finst stated that an evening meeting should be scheduled
to accomplish things that are rushed due to the lack of time.
Ms. Healy stated that an evening meeting would be
appropriate for the month of November 1989 since she will be
out of town for the month of October 1989.
The video will be scheduled for the special meeting.
g. The Historic Marker
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Ms. Finst asked what is happening with the Marker, Ms. Healy
stated that Mt. Olive Church may not want the Marker on
their property.
Mr. Mayhew asked if a big marker could not be put in Pompey
park, since it is City property.
Ms. Finst feels N. W. 5th Avenue would be a more appropriate
location.
Ms. Healy feels it would be better to place the marker on
City property.
Ms. Finst stated that the City ownes a parking lot on 5th
Ave. and it might make a good location for the marker.
Ms. Healy stated it would be best to proceed with the marker
using City property.
h. Transfer of Development Rights (T.D.R. )
Mr. Mayhew wants Mr. Weedon and Ms. Ruby to look at T.D.
R. ' s within Coral Gables where T.D.R. are inplace.
Mr. Weedon feels T. D. R. ' s are not appropriate for the City
of Delray Beach in it' s present development stage, however
Mr. Weedon will look into the effects of T.D.R. ' s with
regards to Redevelopment.
i. Full Time planner.
Mr. Mayhew would like to encourage another full time
planner because the City has four Historic Districts and an
additional . planner would speed things up regarding
preservation. Mr. Mayhew wants a Preservation program to be
put in place within the City.
j . Lakeland/Philadelphia
Ms. Healy asked if Mr. Weedon would be attending the Florida
Trust Conference or the National Trust Conference.
Mr. Weedon responded that it depends on the budget within
his program.
Ms. Healy stated that the Board has funds to accommodate
him.
k. Mr. Nathanson questioned as to the results of the following
unfinished COA' s.
Warren May
721 N. Swinton
Ms. Cayce stated nothing has been done as of yet.
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& Goodwill Signs
Ms. Cayce stated that Goodwill Signs is on the agenda for
September 20, 1989.
& Paul Piazzolla of Artistic Home Builders
Ms. Cayce stated that he had an option for this meeting.
1. Tri-rail would be repaving for the buses. It was stated
that the permit is no longer valid. Concerns by the Board
regarding the Tri-rail station.
m. Ms. Cayce talked to Mr. Bauer regarding 272 272 1/2 proposed
demolition. It was stated that there Was not reason to
demolish the above. Ms. Cayce stated that there is a
possible buyer for the above.
16 . New Business
There was no new business.
17. Adjournment
Mr. Nathanson motioned to adjourn. Seconded by Ms. Finst.
The meeting adourned at 12: 10 p.m. .
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