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situation, and hopes .that with the unified effort of the City ~llgineer,
Mr. Neff, and the Council, some solution may be arrived at to remedy
the situation on a temporary basis until the funds can be obtained
from the Federal ~overnment.
During comments Mayor Avery suggested that, if there ie.'a solution
to this problem, an Ordinance that has been placed on first reading
concerning rezoning of some property adjacent to S. W. 10th Street
could be advertised for second reading and public hearing.
Mr. Jurrley said that he is interested in City Engineer Fleming
taking some grades to find out where the lowest points ara, and if
necessary get some drag lines to dig ditches and ca~ale, p~t more pumps
if necessary, and more and larger culverts, or whatever-the City
near thinks is necessary.
City Engineer Fleming said that Mr. Neff'a suggestion under 8.b.
of the memorandum read tonight, "That the engineers be direote~ to de-
velop an interim .plan, or preferably stage construction, to assure
that the ma~mum lasting benefit can be derived from the interim facil-
ities", is what the Council would wa.hr to consider, and that poflibly
a;heavy lift station in the vicinity of 10th Street where the little
canal ora.sees-and a force main large enough to'carry 2500 gallons per
minute directly west into the C-15 Canal may be considered, if that
ties in with the .final construction,, something of that nature, while
it is costly, would still have a permanent value.
Mayor Avery questio~ed= "This technical question---Mr. Worth~'ng
can probably answer it. It has been the policy of this Council and
previous Councils that benefited properties pay---carry the weight for
their properties that are benefited.' If we took an interim plan, could
they later be atsesse.~, for thOSO, things that we did, or would future
work that we did fit the assessmen'teT"-
Mr. Worthing: "The answer is, they can be la.ret aaseseed.~
Mayor Avery: "For the cost, including this cost?"
Mr. Worthing= "Any property can be assessed to the extent of its
benefit o"
Mayor Avery said i~f Council takes emergency meaeu~es~ now, which
could t£e in an~ benefit the overall thing 1&tar, th~ cOSt of this
could be al~plie~ ~o ~he Overall benefit.
Mr. worthing =ommented: ':! will confi~m"Mark ~le~ing, your City
Engineer"s comment, and point.out for the benefit of you gentlemen,
the last portion of his comment. This will undoubtedly be a part of
your permanent system because beyond all dou~t eventually the western
drainage will go down the easterly portion of the right-of-Way of/I-95
to the C-15 Canal, and therefore, the lift sta~ion that he mentioned,
while it might seem costly today, will still be part of undoubtedly the
per, spent constr~ction."
Mr. Neff said that he thinks the reoomme'ndatione in paragraph 8
are sound. First there has to be a plan so that it can' be seen how
everything that is done in the interim period ties into tha't plal~.
Further, that the .brief plan is a lift station that ties into 3rd
Street and 8th Avenue to take the water west, then down through a se-
ries of existing canals to the C-15 Canal. That has the approval of
the Centra'l and South Florida ~lood Control District as they have pro-
vided fo~ drainage of this area 4n the C-15. Canal. - He said th&t there
is a fall of about 8 feet from 3rd Street do~ .,to ~the gate elevation,
and that he would assume the City would have....Lia~eon, with the Flood
Control District to drop the gate if
Mr. Neff said that an alteL~nate, route ~ould be one that would go
directly east down 3Td Street to ~he Inland Waterway~ but that plea
would not take care of the whole southwest area of Delray Beach.
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a position to .ahO~ that this ia involved with an overall County-wide
water program Or County~wide planning program in general, or an over-
all comprehensive plan that they base their capital improvement ex-
penditures on.
Mr. Smith said that he feels the City needs the same thing, they
need to know where the money is Coming from, they need to know a little
~ore about the area 'in a lot of ways; and of the whole City, and how it
ties in with the CoUnty. That the Federal ~overnment has been giving
money for years to these pro,rams, but they have found out that they
don't fit a comprehensive plan and a lot Of work has been duplicated,
so they are not doing that anymore.
Mr. Smith explained further.: "We were told at a meet. lng, by HUD,
that w.i,T/~in 30 to 60 days,~depending'on how fast the County can move,
to get their organization and their plan to plan accepted by HUD, then
funds for this type of thing will be considered. .Right now the ap-
plication is not being considered because the County doesn't have an
approved approach to planning. When they get an approved approach,
then this type of funds, which is strictly for pla.~ning purposes', can
be approved. Later on when you want to implement something, if you
want to use · little bit of Pederal money, then you have to have quite
a bit of a comprehensive plan completed.
Mr. Neff reported to council that in the application to HUD 'for
Federal Funds, he had informed them that the Central and South PlOrida
Flood Control District has jurisdiction over this area~ further, 'that
.he had obtained, and sent a copy of.a letter to HUD, part
as follows= ~ln response to your han,~ carried letter', and %~ompany-
ing drawing 16, relative to Delray Beach Storm Drainage, the area ,you
indicate on your sketch is within the C-15,6rainage basin a~d entitled
to drainage into that canal. An app, l,~cat.!on should be presented and
executed in conformance with our standards ,of construction and permit
procedures. The desiglled.ru~of£ acceptable to the one square mile is
130 cubic feet per second."
Mr. Neff said that he. has ~aken the attitude that this d~ainage is
part of a master plan of the thirteen county flood control plan, and
that whatever WOrk is done will tie into that plan.
Mr. Talbot asked if it would be possible to talk the County into
condemning the property within the County in order that the City may
spend its money in cleaning out the canal?
Mayor Avery aske~_ if it would be proper to authorize the City
Manager to send the County a request suggesting such procedure at this
time. The Mayor a.~ked Acting City Manager. Worthing his thinking on
the matter.
Mr. Worthing answered that he would know better after talking with
Mr. George Frost, for he alone is the man to contact at this time in
that regard~ further, that he believes it is possible and certainly
worth trying.
It was so .moved by Mr. Jurney, seconded by Mr. Croft and urmni-
mously carried.
Mayor Avery said it had been suggested that the overall drainage
plan be authorized, and asked how much money ia involved for said plan?
Mr. Neff informed Council that the application to HUD i~ for
$7,500. for that purpose.
Mr. Jurney moved to approve said authorization, and explained that
the City would be investing $?,500. for plans ~=om Russe!l & Axon for
this drainage system, and in the event money was authorized by HUD,
thatcouId be ~rked out &t that time. .
-Finance Director Weber asked if this. iS $7,500. for.Planning .or a
planning report, and was informed that it is for a planning report.
The Pinance. ~irector aske~, ..,if this whole pro,eot would be on an
assessment basis, 'and was informed that it would be. He then reported
that said funds could come from the Special'A~Sess~ent
Ma~or .- Avery e~plained that-M~. Jurney.had moved that' the ,p~anning
Report be authori~e~ to Russell & AXon, cost not to ~xceed $7,500.
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The motion was seconded by Mr. Talbot.
Mr. Croft asked if that would be a complete report, and Mr. Neff
informed Council that it would ~e the same type of report as was-made
on the water plant, and wOuld give complete financing, feasibility,
and design .... not final plans.
Finance Director Weber asked: "Would that $7,500. paid for the
Plan~ing Report apply against the final construction plans as it has
in the projects for water and sewer?"
Mr. Neff answered: "Yes. I would think so. That is covered in
the Standard Engineering Fee. You might want to go into final plans
without a report if you really want speed.;~'
Mayor Avery commented: "There is a- question directed to you. It
has been moved end seconded that the report be authorized. The ques-
tion has-been directed to you and you do not have to answer because
you are just Project Manager and you would have to have the approval
of your superiors. We would want a letter to the effect that the
money for the report apply toward the final plans and specifications,
or part of it, or what have you."
Mr. Neff replied: "It has been Russell & Axon's policy to the
City of Delray Beach, -in all of their contract work, to refund to the
City. We did it on the water report. The $10,000. that you paid for
the original report was deducted fro~ the final bill."
Mayor Avery asked that the motion included the condition that this
sum of money authorized apply toward the f£nal Plans and specifications.
Mr. Jurney and Mr. Talbot accepted that addition tO the motion and
second.
A~ing City Manager Worthing said that he believes it will be well,
before approving such fin~l Plan, to negotiate the fee with the Con-
sulting Engineers.
Mayor Avery explained that the final plans, toward which the
$7,500. would applY, would be a negotiated fee. He then asked if the
City Manager thinks Council is moving with too much haste in this
matter.
M~'~ Worthing answered: "Not if you limit this motion to the survey.
It was mentioned that this may be a continuation of the Contract
with Russell & Axon, and Mayor Avery said he thinks this would come
under the Florida Engineering society rates. Further: "Sanitary Sys-
tem, then further plans on the sanitary things fall into a rate. Plant
Systems and c~rtain things fall into a rate. You may find that this
drainage system is not related under Florida Engineering Society, that
it is a separate thing entirely'and you Will'h&ve to recognize this,
that this is not related to sanitary sewers,' this is stor~ ~rainage,
and the Florida Engineering rates Would then apply."
Mr. Weber answered that the water Treatment Plant is not connected
with sewers, but the rates continued on and applied to the Wat~ar Treat-
ment Plant.
Upon call of roll, the ~otion carried unanimously.
Mayor Avery asked the two CounciI candidates if they had any sug-
gestions as to what Council could do to alleviate this situation.
Mr. Merritt said that he did not have any suggestions at this time.
Mr. McLaughlin said that he is in favor of getting the canals
south of 10th Street cleaned out.
The meeting a~ovrned at 4:55 P.M.
R. D. WORTHING
City Clerk
APPROVED:
MAYOR
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RUSSELL & AXON
oF~c~:s Consulting Engineers, Incortmrated
DELRAY BEACH, FLORIDA 33444
October 24, 1966 ,
INFOP~iAL
TO: Honorable Mayor and City Council
City of Delray Beach, Florida
SUBJECt: Temporary Stol~n Water Control Measures,
Southwest Section
FROM: D. R. Neff - Project Manager
Russell ~ Axon Consulting
Engineers, Incorporated
1. Due to recent floodillg of the Southwest section, we have been
asked to make recommendations for a temporary sto~m water control system.
2. Recapitulation of Work to Date:
a. City Council authorized preparation of planning loan
application to Department of Housing and Urban Develop-
ment ~UD) on July 25, 1966.
b. Surveys made and application submitted to HUD on August 24,
1966.
c. Application hand-carried to Atlanta by Mr. Klinck, and
discussed. Received fa¥or~bly. Now being processed -
(4 to 6 months .estimated for processing).
5. Progremto Date:
a. We have surveyed two routes for disposal of water, and
assembled preliminary design information.
b. Pumping station for either route would be located on City
property at S. W. 3rd Street and S. W. 8th Avenue.
c. West route would take water West on 5rd Street to East
edge of 1-95 right of way and thence South to C-15 Canal.
d. East route would take water East on 5rd Street to the
Intracoastal.
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Honorable Mayor and City Council October 24, 1966
City of Delray Beach, Florida Page 2.
e. Based upon preliminary information, it would appear
preferable to take the water West.
4. Temporary Stop-Gap Measures --
a. Construct concrete sump, pump bases, and temporary shelter
in the vicinity of S. W. 3rd Street and 8th Avenue.
b. Order, or allocate, or arrange to rent (on short notice)
pumps with a minimum capacity of 2S00 Gallons per Minute
c. If diesel pumps are used, construct above-ground fuel
storage tank [24 hrs. supply}.
d. Replace existing culverts at 10th Street and Germantown
Road with twin 48" corrugated iron pipes.
e. Get permission from property owners to open up existing
diagonal ditch to Germanto~n Road. (Temporary permission.)
f. Clean out, where necessary, e~isting ditch from Germanto~n ,
Road South. Blocked at Boone's farm. [Richardson - o~ner,
will cooperate.)
S. Mark Fleming has an intimate knowledge of this area, and inas-
much as we have not had sufficient time to discuss this question
in detail, we are hesitant about a cost estimate.
6. Preliminary Cost Estimate [for planning purposes only.
a. Sump, Pu~p bases, shelter, fuel tank, culverts and ditch
cleaning - $50,000.
b. Pumps - to be recommended in cooperation with Mark Fleming.
7. Discussion of the problem...
This problem has existed for a long time, and there is no cheap
or easy solution. Under/he circumstances, we would recommend
moving ahead with deliberate speed, giving assurance to the
citizens directly effected that help is on the way. However,
all funds committed should be spent wisely, with the assurance
of maximum benefits per dollar.
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Honorable Mayor and City Council October 24, 1966
City of Delray Beach, Florida page 3.
~ ; 8. Recommendations - In view of the above facts it is recom-
~ ~ mended:
a. That the final report be authorized at once; as
envisioned in the HUD application. (If Federal
Funds are received in the interim, tkey can be
applied.)
b. That the engineers be directed to develop an interim
plan, or preferably stage construction, to assure that
the maxim~ lasting benefit can be derived from the
interim facilities.
RUSSELL f AXON CONSULTING
ENGINEERS, INCORPORATED
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