04-09-65 APRIL 9, 1965
A meeting of the City Council, together with the Beach Taxpayers
League, was held in the Council Chambers at 6:30 P.M., following a
request of said League for a meeting. Members of the Council pre-
sent were: Mayor Al. C. Avery, Vice-Mayor Jack L. Saunders and
Councilmen j. LeRoy Croft, James H. Jurney and George Talbot, Jr.,
also Acting City Manager R. D. Worthing. Members of the Beach Tax-
payers League present were: Mr. Lewis Gibbs, President, Mrs.
Dorothea Montgomery, Secretary, Messrs. Dugal G. Campbell, Pierre
Crenier, Ward M. Robinson, George Talbot, Jr., William G. Weiss,
E. Jack Barns, Herbert F. Royal, j. Watson Dunbar and Mrs Gladys
R. Little. ·
Mayor Avery called the meeting to order and an opening prayer
was delivered by Mr. Worthing, followed by the Pledge of Allegiance
to the Flag of the United States of America.
Mayor Avery: "This meeting was requested by the Beach Taxpayers
League, and we agreed to give them the courtesy of the meeting. No
action will be taken on the part of the Council at this meeting
tonight, because it is an informal workshop. We are here to listen
and heed, with an open mind. Now, with this, and since it has been
requested, I would like to call on Mr. Gibbs, President of the Beach
Taxpayers League, to present the items that you wish brought before
this Council. Anyone who speaks, we will ask to come to the micro-
phone, as we are on tape.,,
Mr. Gibbs: "~onorable Mayor and Commissioners, we are just here
and we are very grateful to have your time and energy that you have
devoted to what we wish to present. We are very grateful for that,
and of course, the time of the day is a little bit odd, but we
appreciate your position and we are just grateful to be here. We
are very much interested and also we want you to understand, and
some of us are only down here for three or four months and some for
six months and some for a year, but our properties, however, haDpen
to be down here for a full twelve months, which we are interested
in, and our homes on the beach side. I have the pleasure of turning
this meeting over to the Chairman of the Committee that I appointed,
Col. Dugal Campbell..
Col. Campbell: "Mr. Mayor and Council, in asking for this
meeting, we would like for you to accept the fact that we, living
east of the Canal, feel that some of the problems that are ours are,
by the type of problem, believe that they are the City's as a whole.
We believe that the beach property that is, the beach itself, the
mile, is perhaps the most valuable asset that the City has. It is
used by literally thousands during the season and by our own citizens
to great advantage during the so-called off months. We would like
you to believe that we are coming to you hoping for and believing
that we will get the fullest cooperation within the bounds of the
moneys that can be spent. We haven't asked---to my knowledge, the
east side hasn't asked for any expenditures for some time, and
frankly speaking, we think that we have got very little expense on
the east side for some time. I would like to, if I may, read some
of these notes that have been made. I want to thank one or two of
your Council for having taken the time to inspect the area the other
day. I know that George knows the area as well as any of us, but I
asked the City Manager first, and Mrs. Little and others to make this
trip through the area with the thought ..... or asking them to look at
it from the viewpoint of a person coming into Delray with a thought
of one or two things: Either spending the season with us, or spend-
ing the season with us with the thought that they might want to'buy,
and we want to do the best selling job that we can do.
So we started with the north end of A1A, which is one of our
six City entrances, and came on down. The first thing that we find
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"is the rock that has, by necessity, been put in on the shoreline
just north of Beach Drive on up to ---. It has done a wonderful
job. It has held our beach erosion back; there is no question about
it, but we wondered if asking the State, County, or doing it our-
selves, if the City couldn't find the moneys in one of those three
places to perhaps put fifteen to twenty loads of dirt, not sand, in
among those rocks, and then plant the fast growing type of vines
that we have used down at the lower end of the beach where it has
held now for four or five years and done a worthwhile job. Then as
you come on down AiA, there are a number of places on the west side
where the owners, I believe, have built the walls and carried the
blacktop up to those walls. They are neat looking. They give a turn
out of traffic. They do furnish parking for those people, and I
don't think it has been used by the City possibly to the extent it
might be. There are some of those on the north side. There are any
number of them on'the south side of Atlantic Avenue where the black-
top has not been carried over to the walls that have now been built,
and I am sure that those who have seen it will agree that they make
very unsightly looking spots. If it is on City right-of-way or State
right-of-way, we could carry that blacktop over to the walls, clean
them up and we would get the good effect of the clean up and might
pick up some most valuable parking areas.
Back of the Seacrest Hotel, there is a space just off the paved
road that has been used for years for parking of approximately twelve
cars. About five years ago, the hotel took it upon themselves to
blacktop, put a guard rail across and made a very neat looking park-
ing space of it. They put up two signs that it was for the use of
the hotel people only, and the City, rightly so, had to ask them to
take the signs down. It has been used for public parking ever since,
but I doubt if the City has spent as much as a plugged nickel to
keep it cleaned up or to keep it in shape. The guard rail is now
broken in many places, the beer cans, bottles and everything else are
in around the area, and now is a sand stand instead of a blacktop. I
am sure if Mr. Holland, who also made this trip with us, had been on
the job as late as last Monday, it would have been blacktopped be-
cause he was impressed with the possibilities of it, and I am sure I
am not putting words into his mouth.
I would like to have youth ink of that area with the possibility
of cleaning it up in the manner that we have referred to. It will
cost a little money, but I am sure it will cost much less than some
of us may think.
As you come back around, coming up from the south from Seagate
Drive, we find one of the sewer lifts or stations still up above the
ground, the only one, I believe, left on that side. It is in the
middle of a very valuable piece of property; true enough, it is on
the City right-of-way, but none of us understand why it was built
that way in the first place. The City has corrected the others, and
I am sure the people on the south side will appreciate it if you
will go a step further and clean this one up and put it below the
ground where it should be. I, for one, cannot understand why our
consulting engineers, who were also the designing engineers, should't
be asked to make good these mistakes and they are mistakes, as their
own ."
Mayor Avery: "Mr. Campbell, the engineers are not here to de-
fend themselves, so ."
Mr. Campbell: "May I ask you then to call the attention of this
to their attention."
Mayor Avery: "That's right, but they are not here to defend
themselves, so let's don't attack anybody ..... keep it general."
Col. Campbell: "I'm sorry. If, in my opinion, and I mention
it as my opinion, they are at fault, I ask that it be so mentioned
because the tape can be read back to them. Let's not put a gag on."
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Mayor Avery: "Mr. Campbell, we are not putting a gag on. We
just want to be fair to everyone. We don't want to attack anyone
that can't defend themselves. Let's stay in good taste."
Col. Campbell: "I'm sure you won't, but there is no harm done
in calling attention to the fact that the mistakes made have cost
the City money. On the east bank of the waterway, there is consider-
able debris that has been either Washed up or dipped uD when the
digging out of the waterway was done last year that is exceptionally
objectionable, not only to our people, but it is objectionable to
those people on the west side who were, I don't know whether they
did or not, to bring a petition to you at the first meeting. That
particular area just south of the bridge on the east side for perhaps
five hundred feet is, to say the least, not in keeping with what we
think of when we think of Delray Beach. Further, there has been some
request, and on this particular point, there is a division of thought
as to whether or not the lighting on the Ocean Boulevard could be
improved, as there is some who feel that the walking on the Boulevard
in the early evening hours, or in the evening hours, has become some-
what dangerous. We have had people say that even the police, and
this I would rather question in my own mind, but they say that the
police have called their attention to the fact that they wish they
wouldn't walk along there at the late evening hours. On a number of
the streets on the north side, and one or two on the south side, we
continue to have the flood water conditions, where it has been
practically impossible for some of the owners to get into their homes.
You had one case here before you two or three weeks ago, and that was
corrected. That was Mr. Dittrich in that location that he was in.
This next problem is one that we are all very much interested
in, and I am particularly happy that we have the Chief and Captain
from the Police Department here. The question has been raised
whether or not we have enough protection, police protection, east of
the waterway, especially in the late evening or early morning hours.
It is evident that we have one cop in a car on duty in what is listed
as the first shift, and that first shift is from 11:00 p.mo to 7:00
a.m., and it is my understanding that that man is instructed that'
under no circumstances, he will leave the beach area. For that we
are duly thankful, but we question whether one man out of a force of
41 is all that we should have a right to expect, and if that one,
covering the area from the north to the south and east to west, can
do the job. Many of those homes are vacant many months of the year.
We have had some considerable breaking in. We know other sections
have, too, but we would very much like to ask for a study by the
Commission, and through them to the Police Department, of the possi-
bility of better coverage. We also object to the traffic, the speed
of the traffic, not only on the Boulevard, but on some of the back
streets, as well.
We are building our first high-rise apartment which is thought
to the possibility of fire coverage; those people in that first one
will no doubt want to know what is being done, or what can be done
in case of fire. It may well be thought out; if it is, I don't think
anyone yet has the answer on it.
In the past few months, many of us, not only on the beach area,
have been disturbed by the lack of what we called in the old days a
capital improvement committee. We are very happy to see that a couple
of weeks ago, the Mayor, in the papers and by letter, I believe, to
the Council, asked their consideration of a central, or a committee
to study the need of capital improvements and capital financing on a
City-wide basis, rather than to go the way we had started to go by
special committees, it being understandable that each would have their
own pet improvement. No doubt they are very sincere in those improve-
ments, but can we take them all on at one time? We hear of the most
necessary beach erosion correction, the water expansion, the sewer
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"expansion, need of a police building, and it goes on and on, and we
wonder where the money is coming from and what the tax bills are
going to be in the coming years. When we speak of the tax bills, we
all were very happy last fall when the Council, through'the Mayor,
announced that our budget had been cut and that we would have a
corresponding cut in the taxes, but a study of some of the tax bills
have shown that when we pay the $180,090.00 garbage removal bill for
the year, which is equivalent to 3 mills, that we haven't had the
tremendous savings that has been referred to, but on that particular
point, I am sure that I can speak for the Taxpayers League when I
say to you that we would rather you didn't cut the corners quite so
close, if in turn you give us the service that we are willing to pay
for. For example, we don't feel that a thousand dollars assigned for
the beautification program of the City, and of that, $500.00 is being
held for the Cemetery, leaving $500.00 to be spread most thinly over
the balance of the City. We are glad to see the $500.00 spent at
the Cemetery and if it has done the job, fine. If it hasn't, spend
some more until you get it right, but don't let's cut the corners
too close.
A suggestion has been made as to the ~Dossibility of the com-
paratively low cost of a police stockade. We are living in an area
where it might be possible that the boarding and housing of these
prisoners, of which we seem to have more than any other town around
us, might fall back into a stockade proposition. That is just a
suggestion for what it is worth.
It has been a matter of considerable question in the minds of a
number of our people as to why, when the --- and this we can't go
back and correct, but it is brought up again now .... when we are
told that a hundred, over a hundred thousand dollars is to be paid
out in the central part of the town to correct the sewer conditions
that have existed there for many, many years, we wonder why that
$100,000.00 wasn't taken into consideration when the job was being
done, which, at that time, would have been included in the bonding,
which now evidently will be thrown at us either on a basis of repair,
and if so, will have to be picked up in the first year. If you throw
it into the bonds, and we hope you do into the second bonds, we still
wonder why the balance of the City is paying for the repairs of a
sewer that was put in during the twenties and on which, the vast
majority of the people serviced by that have paid no repairs or no
service charge over the years.
There is further wonder, Mr. Mayor, and I should perhaps direct
this to you in particular as I believe that you have the answer, why
the streets in the west side of town have been, as I believe you said
one time when a protest was made at one of the regular meetings, was
blacktopped. There are other streets that were blacktopped d~ring
the sewer program. The question that was asked is how those particu-
lar streets were built or put in position, call it what you like,
without the abutting property owners being charged any part of it;
how the maintenance on those will be made. Is that to be charged to
the city as a whole, or just what? It was explained to some who were
here at one of the meetings .... no, it wasn't explained publicly;
it was explained privately .... that Homewood Boulevard and N. W. 4th
were done on an emergency basis, at least, Homewood Boulevard. The
question that would be asked there is to what emergency existed, and
why the abutting property owners, which must be those on the east
side, as the ones on the west side would be in the County, why they
are being asked to pay 60% of the cost of that road, where in the
past, in like situations, the abutting property owners have oaid as
high as 90%, not only of the cost of material, but of labor ~nly. As
far as it being an emergency, you have 22nd Street and the Street that
leads down to the second golf course, giving access to both golf
courses, without any question.
we are concerned about the recreation program, in particular as
it affects the beach. You have at the beach, i believe the highest
paid men now that we have ever had, and frankly, the supervision, in
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"our opinion, leaves a lot to the imagination. You see as many as
three and four people up in the guard stands, where I am sure that an
operation would say that the guard should be there at all times alone,
ifhe is up there, and if he is on the beach, his swim suit should be
marked 'GUARD' so that you could find him without undue delay. As
a week ago Sunday, one of them was not in the guard house---in the
guard spot, and after a half an hour wait, he was pointed out as
being down at the beach where, I think, he coul~ well do a good job,
but there was no way to tell that he was the guard as he had a white
sweat shirt on over that part of his body that might have carried the
guard emblems. Some of this seems no doubt petty, but we do have a
worthwhile investment in all of it, and I can assure you that we are
vitally interested in the fact that we want to pay our share and we
do 9ay our share, we pay 38% of the total tax~ we don't dwell on
that point, but we do pay our share, and we pay the share we feel that
we ought to get the same breaks that are given to any other area. As
abutting property owners, if we 9ay our share of improvements, then
we want the others to do likewise, no matter where they may be. We
know that we are in the unhappy position of having a very small voting
unit, but we ask that you overlook that and give us the benefit of
the doubt when it comes to the improvements that we are asking for
here, and that have been asked for over the years.
There are some of our people who Would question the judgment,
and we realize that it is your decision to make, of the spending
of $25,000.00 through the Chamber for'.an advertising campaign, and
then on top of that, spending $5,000.00 last year for what was sup-
posed to be our share of the World's Fair expense, and voting an
additional $2,500.00 this year, rather than take it out of the
$25,000.00 that has already been set aside. It seems to us that is
rather heavy for this town when no other town around us, except
Boynton, pays $5,000.00. Boca and other towns of like size .... Boca
paid nothing. Some of them paid $100.00. Whether we got the ad-
vertising return on it is your guess or mine, but we wondered why the
$2,500.00 couldn't have been taken from the $25,000.00 that was set
aside for advertising. In the past two years, I have known that
budget, or that allowance to the Chamber of Commerce, to go as iow
as, I think the lowest was $10,000.00 one year, and we have worked
it back u9 so we are now back u9 to $25,000.00. Four or five years
ago, we were spending money trying to bring in industry. We find now
that the Chamber has decided that we are not going to spend money for
industry, that we are going to sDend it in other ways. We would like
to make a comparison on that basis. An apartment building was built
just south of Atlantic, 42 or 43 families. That apartment building
brought in the class of people who are spending money with our mer-
chants, that are living here longer than the average winter resident,
and they are capable of, and are spending the money, and we would
like to suggest that possibly the Chamber could be sold on making an
approach for retirees, going through the different house organizations.
We have, living in our area, men who have retired here, who have in
the past headed, or department heads of consequence, or have headed
their own large organizations, and we ask, if it is possible, that a
study be made of the chances_ of reaching worthwhile ~etirees, through
these house organizations or through these people.
Having been up here longer possibly than I should have been, I
think that's it and I turn it back to our worthy President."
Mr. Gibbs= "I don't know whether there is anybody here among
our members that would like to have something to the the Council to-
night. We are fortunate to have them° Is there anybody that woul~
like to add something?"
Mrs. Montgomery= "I would like to add about two things to Col.
Campbell's talk. I believe that the Colonel's idea is about the sa~e
as all of us on the beach. We want light, but we don't want Coney
Island light. We want, I think if we had more of the same type of
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"light, because there are a few black spots, or blackout spots. We
don't want Atlantic Avenue lights to hate to fight with the moon,
because we love to walk along there and see the moon come up out of
the ocean. It is 'Moon over Delray Beach', not 'Moon over Miami',
for us. I believe we could do something on that very easily. Another
thing that we are starting to have very bad again .... we have plenty
of life guards; we have a very good man in charge of them, but they
are not cracking down. I am very emphatic on this. There is no
reason why anyone, regardless of who they are, should be allowed to
undress on the beach, even though they have a bathing suit under it.
We put an ordinance in our books prohibiting undressing and dressing
on the beach. A person can have a beach coat, beach robe, but there
is no reason for them to take off all their outer clothing and peeling
down to bathing suits. It gives the place, to my mind, a very, very
bad name. We also have on the books that people cannot walk around
the whole town in bathing suits without some type of cover, man or
woman, beachcoat of some sort. That is not being enforced at all. I
see police cars go by and I see people, I would say, two blocks away
from the beach. We were talking about an apartment. I happened to
' be swimming at that apartment on a Sun~ay afternoon and I looked down
and I saw this man walking up to the beach, which meant he had just
walked across the bridge with just bathing trunks on. Now we have a
Police Department, because I know we have a good one and they patrol
that beach. They patrol Atlantic Avenue. I don't know what happens
after 11 o'clock; I go to bed, but I do know if I need them, I can
get them awfully fast and they are to be complimented on the speed
that they can get there when we do complain at night. I do think that
the undressing on the beach and the people walking .... we can do that
through a little publicity, maybe, in the papers. It is an educational
job to my way of thinking, rather than ...... it's a police job to
educate the public, and not just say, 'Here, we will give you a ticket
for it, but we don't allow this in Delray Beach'. We are a little
proud of our town. Thank you."
Mr. Gibbs: "Does the Mayor have anything to say, or any questions
at all, maybe ..... ..
Mayor Avery: "Mr. Gibbs, I think it has been presented in a most
comprehensive manner. What I would like to say is that there have been
some very good suggestions made. They are going to require some money.
I think that while the Council can't take any action, it is quite
proper that we direct the City Manager to take this tape and enumerate
these things. Some of them are going to require money and so it would
be in order to direct him to prepare estimates as to what it would
take to accomplish the variou~ suggestions. If there are indications
that someone made a mistake, then the Council would like to know it,
and if the mistake was on the part of a Council when they approved
plans for budget purposes, I think this is quite proper. You have
requested answers to certain questions. It will take a little re-
search to get the minutes of the Council that approved --- and they
were done by Council approval back when Mr. Dietz and Mr. Woodard were
on the Council, on the western area. I was on the Council; I was one
of them. It takes a little detailed research to give you the positive,
truthful and exact answers. We would like to have the City Manager,
if you think it is proper, to direct him to take these questions and
start researching this so that we can prepare you the answers to the
questions that you want answered, and to consider doing those things
that you requested, if it is financially feasible to do it."
Mr. Gibbs: "I am sure you Commissioners are cognizant of the
fact that in the summertime, we live, most of us, I guess, live up
in the North, and it is surprising the amount of publication and
Sunday pictorials and organizations to come out and say that Delray
Beach is the best place, it is better than Palm Beach, and it's
surprising. I am tickled to death to read these articles, and want
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"to keep it that way. That is our only interest over here on the
beach side. We love the City side, too, because we do all our
shopping over there. We buy oranges, lemons, and everything else
over there. But we want to keep the whole City of Delray Beach with
the same reputation for the next twenty-five years, when we're gone.
That is all our plea is, and I do think that the various stories
about things that happen on the beach after dark, of course those
things do happen, but some of them are not in the line of joy, and I
do seriously wish you would go into the police situation over there,
or maybe .... I don't know if it is possible, but I do think we need
some protection over there, because it is a fingered area: in other
words, it is easy to see that things happen that they don't do on
Atlantic Avenue or down in front of the Tap Room, so that, therefore,
there is more possibility of playground symptoms, and I just wish
that we could have a little more thoroughly patrolled beach area and
on the beach side."
Mayor Avery: "I can assure you, because I know this Council
and how it acts, so if any member of the Council disagrees with me,
say so ..... I assure you that we are going to give these'things our
utmost consideration, and try to accomplish those things that are
financially feasible. I will assure you that."
Mr. Saunders: "We are as proud of that beach as you people are.
We figure that's really our biggest asset, and those of us who have
lived here for any length of time know that it is the biggest thing
we have and we are all interested in doing what we can to keep it in
the status it should be kept. I get the impression, though, that you
are not too happy with us on some of the things you have pointed out.
I think that some of the things that have been brought out, as to
Delray Beach having a good reputation in the North, I think that
bears repeating. We are all proud of it and we are all proud to live
here. We appreciate you pointing out some of these things that need
attention and I assure you that it would be my thought to try to
bring them about, if we can do it financially."
Mayor Avery: "Mr. Gibbs, one of your men, Mr. Crenier, wishes
to be heard."
Mr. Crenier: "Regarding that sewer pump that is on Seagate
Drive, I hapDen to be one of the residents living closest to it.
When it was first installed, there were several of us around there
made some inquiries regarding the installation of that pump, and we
were informed that it was a temporary proposition, which is probably
the reason why you haven't received any formal~complaints about it,
and I think that you will agree, Mr. Mayor, if you will drive by
there, that it does look like a temporary pump proposition. It is
an eyesore. The other pumps that have been put in in the other parts
of the town have disappeared, so that I really think that this is not
a mistake. It was a temporary proposition that has been neglected~
let's put it on that basis."
Mayor Avery: "I can assure you that it is one thing that will
get researched by this Council, and mistakes will be corrected. If
it is not a mistake, then a study will be made to make it a palatable
thing, if that is the correct way to talk about a sewer."
Mr. Crenier~ "It wasn't an error. It's something that has been
neglected."
Mayor Avery: If it doesn't contribute to the beauty of this
town, I think that every Councilman here, we are pretty well dedicated
to beauty, and it is not because it is in your backyard, but beauty
is beauty, regardless, and I think the rest of the Council are most
sympathetic with this point, and we intend to research that, don't we,
gentlemen?"
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Mr. Gibbs: "I think that covers the waterfront pretty well on
our side. There may be things come up after we leave, but we will
have to take them up individually. We are very grateful to you
Councilmen to take your time out and take you away from your dinner
table, or what have you, and we are grateful for everything that you
have done for us, and as far as we are concerned, I guess this closes
our books for the time being."
Mayor Avery: "Now, are you satisfied with the fact that there
are answers that we can't give until we research---you understand
that? We don't want to spread gloss or glaze over anything, but you
want the truth."
Mr. Gibbs: "We know that as long as you give us your word for
cooperation, that is all we need."
Mayor Avery: "I want to thank you very much. I think you are
very public spirited. I think it is a wonderful thing. I think this
is a fine American type of democracy where we can sit down and talk
things out."
Mr. Gibbs: "I hope we may have the 91easure next year."
Mayor Avery: "Thank you Mr. Gibbs. Does anyone else have any-
thing from the grou~? Well, gentlemen ..... I neglected the Councilmen.
Does anyone want to make any comment?"
Mr. Croft: "Mr. Mayor, I would just like to add mine to what
Mr. Saunders said, and you have said, I believe, Mr. Mayor, that
certainly we will make every effort to correct these things, and the
only things that we are seeking is to be reasonable and just to the
whole City, with no purpose to any section of the City, and that, I
think, is the reasonable way to approach it."
Mayor Avery: "You can see now why we refer to Mr. Croft as the
silver tongued orator of this Council."
Mr. Talbot: "I would just like to take this opportunity of
tooting Delray's horn, I have the privilege of talking with about
200 visitors, tourists, each season, and I would say in the past 15
years, I can figure about 2,800 or 3,909 people I have talked to.
They all say, 'How do you do it? It's the last holdout.' My answer
to them is that it is damn hard to do it, which it is. Another thing,
in defense to the money that this Council and past Councils have
allocated the Chamber of Commerce, I assume that everybody will agree
that the Grosvenor House is a pretty substantial institution; so is the
Manor House. At least 50% of the people in those two institutions,at
one time, were tourists, and were lured here by a certain high grade
type of advertising. Don't forget that before a person buys here, he
must be brought here by some means. Either by advertising, or by
word of mouth by other people, but it isn't money thrown down the
drain, gentlemen, I can assure you that."
Mr. Jurney: "I would like to thank the Beach Taxpayers League
for calling this meeting with the Council, and I would like to assure
them that this Council is not going off half-cocked on any capital
improvement program. We are very well versed here with financial
people and I think we are in very good hands. Just bear with us, and
be a little patient. We will get everything straightened out. Thank
you."
Mr. Robinson: "I refer to Mr. Talbot's comment about the ad-
vertising and the fact that ..... I think I quote him about verbatim---
'half of the tenants of the Manor House and Grosvenor House were lured
here by high type advertising'. I would like specifically ....... ."
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Mr. Talbot: "I said half of them had been tourists here. I
didn't say 'lured here'."
Mr. Robinson: "I just want to get something straightened out
for my understanding. Is it your idea that the tyge of advertising
in which the Chamber of Commerce has been engaged, with City money,
the past few years is the kind of advertising that brings people to
Delray Beach who are Manor House and Grosvenor House material?"
Mr. Talbot: "I said, 'or word of mouth'."
Mr. Robinson: "I didn't understand that. Thank you."
Mayor Avery: "Mr. Gibbs, do you have anybody else that wishes
to be heard? Any member of the Council wish to be heard? Does that
wind it up? Thank you very much."
The meeting adjourned at 7:45 P.M.
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